Date:   Thu, 5 Jul 2018 14:43:49 +0900
From:   "Katsuhiro Suzuki" <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com>
To:     "'Mauro Carvalho Chehab'" <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>,
        Suzuki, Katsuhiro/鈴木 勝博 
        <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com>
Cc:     <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Masami Hiramatsu" <masami.hiramatsu@...aro.org>,
        "Jassi Brar" <jaswinder.singh@...aro.org>,
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] media: dvb-frontends: add Socionext SC1501A ISDB-S/T demodulator driver

Hi Mauro,

Thank you very much! Great works.
Your patches works fine with my driver (modified max/min frequencies).

Tested-by: Katsuhiro Suzuki <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com>


And I have one question in the below.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:43 AM
> To: Suzuki, Katsuhiro/鈴木 勝博 <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com>
> Cc: linux-media@...r.kernel.org; Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu@...aro.org>;
> Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh@...aro.org>; linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org;
> linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] media: dvb-frontends: add Socionext SC1501A ISDB-S/T
> demodulator driver
> 
> Em Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:58:42 +0900
> "Katsuhiro Suzuki" <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com> escreveu:
> 
> > Hi Mauro,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 1:58 AM
> > > To: Suzuki, Katsuhiro/鈴木 勝博 <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com>
> > > Cc: linux-media@...r.kernel.org; Masami Hiramatsu
> > <masami.hiramatsu@...aro.org>;
> > > Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh@...aro.org>;
> linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org;
> > > linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] media: dvb-frontends: add Socionext SC1501A ISDB-S/T
> > > demodulator driver
> > >
> > > Hi Katsuhiro-san,
> > >
> > > Em Thu, 21 Jun 2018 12:17:48 +0900
> > > Katsuhiro Suzuki <suzuki.katsuhiro@...ionext.com> escreveu:
> > >
> > > > This patch adds a frontend driver for the Socionext SC1501A series
> > > > and Socionext MN88443x ISDB-S/T demodulators.
> > >
> > > Sorry for taking so long to review it. We're missing a sub-maintainer
> > > for DVB, with would otherwise speed up reviews of DVB patches.
> >
> > No problem, thank you for reviewing! I appreciate it.
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > The maximum and minimum frequency of Socionext SC1501A comes from
> > > > ISDB-S and ISDB-T so frequency range is the following:
> > > >   - ISDB-S (BS/CS110 IF frequency in kHz, Local freq 10.678GHz)
> > > >     - Min: BS-1: 1032000 => 1032.23MHz
> > > >     - Max: ND24: 2701000 => 2070.25MHz
> > > >   - ISDB-T (in Hz)
> > > >     - Min: ch13: 470000000 => 470.357857MHz
> > > >     - Max: ch62: 770000000 => 769.927857MHz
> > >
> > > There is actually an error on that part of the driver. Right now,
> > > the DVB core expects Satellite frequencies (DVB-S, ISDB-S, ...)
> > > in kHz. For all other delivery systems, it is in Hz.
> > >
> > > It is this way due to historic reasons. While it won't be hard to
> > > change the core, that would require to touch all Satellite drivers.
> > >
> > > As there are very few frontend drivers that accept both Satellite
> > > and Terrestrial standards, what we do, instead, is to setup
> > > two frontends. See, for example, drivers/media/dvb-frontends/helene.c.
> > >
> >
> > Thank you for describing it. I understand our device is rare case, and
> > the reason why Helene has Terrestrial and Satellite structures.
> >
> > I'm using MN884434 device that has 2 cores. I want to setup DVB adapter
> > devices (/dev/dvb/adapter0/*) for our frontend system as the following:
> >
> >   - adapter0: for core 0, ISDB-T, ISDB-S
> >   - adapter1: for core 1, ISDB-T, ISDB-S
> 
> Yeah, that is what it was supposed to work, if the core was ready for it.
> 
> > But it seems one DVB adapter device support only ISDB-T or only ISDB-S
> > if I divide structures. So I define the adapters as the following:
> >
> >   - adapter0: for core 0, ISDB-T
> >   - adapter1: for core 0, ISDB-S
> >   - adapter2: for core 1, ISDB-T
> >   - adapter3: for core 1, ISDB-S
> >
> > Is this correct?
> 
> That's the way the current driver with uses helene does.
> 
> >
> >
> > > ...
> > > > +static const struct dvb_frontend_ops sc1501a_ops = {
> > > > +	.delsys = { SYS_ISDBS, SYS_ISDBT },
> > > > +	.info = {
> > > > +		.name          = "Socionext SC1501A",
> > > > +		.frequency_min = 1032000,
> > > > +		.frequency_max = 770000000,
> > > > +		.caps = FE_CAN_INVERSION_AUTO | FE_CAN_FEC_AUTO |
> > > > +			FE_CAN_QAM_AUTO | FE_CAN_TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO |
> > > > +			FE_CAN_GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO | FE_CAN_HIERARCHY_AUTO,
> > > > +	},
> > > > +
> > > > +	.sleep                   = sc1501a_sleep,
> > > > +	.set_frontend            = sc1501a_set_frontend,
> > > > +	.get_tune_settings       = sc1501a_get_tune_settings,
> > > > +	.read_status             = sc1501a_read_status,
> > > > +};
> > >
> > > In other words, you'll need to declare two structs here, one for ISDB-T
> > > and another one for ISDB-S.
> > >
> >
> > OK, I'm going to divide this structure for Terrestrial and Satellite. And
> > add attach functions same as Helene driver.
> >
> > I'll send v4 patch.
> 
> I ended by writing two patches that should be solving the issues
> inside the core. With them[1], it will work the way you want.
> 
> There is a catch: you'll need to convert Helene to have a single
> entry and be sure that the driver that currently uses it (netup_unidvb)
> will keep working. I guess I have one such hardware here for testing.
> 
> [1] after tested/reviewed - I didn't test them yet. Feel free to test.
> 

Thank you!!

I try to fix '[PATCH v4] media: helene: add I2C device probe function' 
patch but I have a question...

My idea is adding new dvb_tuner_ops structure and I2C probe function for 
supporting multiple systems. Current drivers (netup) continue to use 
helene_attach_t() and helene_attach_s(), so no need to change netup.
It's conservative but prevent the degrade, I think.

Newer added struct dvb_frontend_internal_info has one pair of max/min 
frequency. What is the best way to declare the frequency range for
multiple systems?

For example, Helene uses these info for only Ter or Sat freq ranges:

		.name = "Sony HELENE Ter tuner",
		.frequency_min_hz  =    1 * MHz,
		.frequency_max_hz  = 1200 * MHz,
		.frequency_step_hz =   25 * kHz,

		.name = "Sony HELENE Sat tuner",
		.frequency_min_hz  =  500 * MHz,
		.frequency_max_hz  = 2500 * MHz,
		.frequency_step_hz =    1 * MHz,

Is this better to add new info for both system?

		.name = "Sony HELENE Sat/Ter tuner",
		.frequency_min_hz  =    1 * MHz,
		.frequency_max_hz  = 2500 * MHz,
		.frequency_step_hz =   25 * kHz, // Is this correct...?


> So, please look at the two patches I sent today to the mailing list.
> 
> (not sure why, they're taking a long time to arrive there - perhaps
> vger has some issues).
> 
> I added them on this tree:
> 	https://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/experimental.git/log/?h=dvb_freq_hz
> 
> it is the last two patches there:
> 	-
> https://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/experimental.git/commit/?h=dvb_freq_hz&id=b3d63
> a8f038d136b26692bc3a14554960e767f4a
> 	-
> https://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/experimental.git/commit/?h=dvb_freq_hz&id=2a369
> e8faf3b277baff4026371f298e95c84fbb2
> 
> I'm not sure if all applications will do the right thing, though, as
> it will depend  if they query the capabilities before or after switching
> to a different delivery system. If it get caps before and store them
> in Hz, apps will work, but tests are required.
> 

Ah, indeed. You mean,

  - Application want to tune Terrestrial system
  - Driver is in Satellite system
  - Application query max/min frequency
  - DVB API returns max/min frequency in 'kHz'
  - Some application will get something wrong
    (ex. app specific range check)

Unfortunately, I don't know applications that do such scenario.
My test application does not query max/min range...


> >
> >
> > > Yeah, I know that this sucks. If you are in the mood of touching the
> > > DVB core, I'm willing to consider a patch that would fix this, provided
> > > that it won't break backward compatibility with other drivers (or would
> > > convert the other satellite drivers to use the new way).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mauro
> >
> > Hmm, I don't know the details of DVB core, I try to investigate it.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Katsuhiro Suzuki
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mauro


Regards,
--
Katsuhiro Suzuki

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