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Date:   Tue, 10 Jul 2018 11:36:37 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Huacai Chen <chenhc@...ote.com>
Cc:     Paul Burton <paul.burton@...s.com>,
        Ralf Baechle <ralf@...ux-mips.org>,
        James Hogan <james.hogan@...s.com>,
        Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@...ux-mips.org>,
        Fuxin Zhang <zhangfx@...ote.com>,
        Zhangjin Wu <wuzhangjin@...il.com>,
        stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@...rulasolutions.com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Jade Alglave <j.alglave@....ac.uk>,
        Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@...ia.fr>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@...il.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] MIPS: implement smp_cond_load_acquire() for Loongson-3

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:26:34PM +0800, Huacai Chen wrote:
> Hi, Paul and Peter,
> 
> I think we find the real root cause, READ_ONCE() doesn't need any
> barriers, the problematic code is queued_spin_lock_slowpath() in
> kernel/locking/qspinlock.c:
> 
>         if (old & _Q_TAIL_MASK) {
>                 prev = decode_tail(old);
> 
>                 /* Link @node into the waitqueue. */
>                 WRITE_ONCE(prev->next, node);
> 
>                 pv_wait_node(node, prev);
>                 arch_mcs_spin_lock_contended(&node->locked);
> 
>                 /*
>                  * While waiting for the MCS lock, the next pointer may have
>                  * been set by another lock waiter. We optimistically load
>                  * the next pointer & prefetch the cacheline for writing
>                  * to reduce latency in the upcoming MCS unlock operation.
>                  */
>                 next = READ_ONCE(node->next);
>                 if (next)
>                         prefetchw(next);
>         }
> 
> After WRITE_ONCE(prev->next, node); arch_mcs_spin_lock_contended()
> enter a READ_ONCE() loop, so the effect of WRITE_ONCE() is invisible
> by other cores because of the write buffer.

And _that_ is a hardware bug. Also please explain how that is different
from the ARM bug mentioned elsewhere.

> As a result,
> arch_mcs_spin_lock_contended() will wait for ever because the waiters
> of prev->next will wait for ever. I think the right way to fix this is
> flush SFB after this WRITE_ONCE(), but I don't have a good solution:
> 1, MIPS has wbflush() which can be used to flush SFB, but other archs
> don't have;

Sane archs don't need this.

> 2, Every arch has mb(), and add mb() after WRITE_ONCE() can actually
> solve Loongson's problem, but in syntax, mb() is different from
> wbflush();

Still wrong, because any non-broken arch doesn't need that flush to
begin with.

> 3, Maybe we can define a Loongson-specific WRITE_ONCE(), but not every
> WRITE_ONCE() need wbflush(), we only need wbflush() between
> WRITE_ONCE() and a READ_ONCE() loop.

No no no no ...

So now explain why the cpu_relax() hack that arm did doesn't work for
you?

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