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Date:   Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:35:39 -0600
From:   Jordan Crouse <jcrouse@...eaurora.org>
To:     Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam@...eaurora.org>
Cc:     Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "list@....net:IOMMU DRIVERS <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>, Joerg
        Roedel <joro@...tes.org>, " <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        pdaly@...eaurora.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iommu/arm-smmu: Add support to use Last level cache

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 03:13:37PM +0530, Vivek Gautam wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
> > Hi Vivek,
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 02:04:44PM +0530, Vivek Gautam wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 04:23:29PM +0530, Vivek Gautam wrote:
> >> >> Qualcomm SoCs have an additional level of cache called as
> >> >> System cache or Last level cache[1]. This cache sits right
> >> >> before the DDR, and is tightly coupled with the memory
> >> >> controller.
> >> >> The cache is available to all the clients present in the
> >> >> SoC system. The clients request their slices from this system
> >> >> cache, make it active, and can then start using it. For these
> >> >> clients with smmu, to start using the system cache for
> >> >> dma buffers and related page tables [2], few of the memory
> >> >> attributes need to be set accordingly.
> >> >> This change makes the related memory Outer-Shareable, and
> >> >> updates the MAIR with necessary protection.
> >> >>
> >> >> The MAIR attribute requirements are:
> >> >>     Inner Cacheablity = 0
> >> >>     Outer Cacheablity = 1, Write-Back Write Allocate
> >> >>     Outer Shareablity = 1
> >> >
> >> > Hmm, so is this cache coherent with the CPU or not?
> >>
> >> Thanks for reviewing.
> >> Yes, this LLC is cache coherent with CPU, so we mark for Outer-cacheable.
> >> The different masters such as GPU as able to allocated and activate a slice
> >> in this Last Level Cache.
> >
> > What I mean is, for example, if the CPU writes some data using Normal, Inner
> > Shareable, Inner/Outer Cacheable, Inner/Outer Write-back, Non-transient
> > Read/Write-allocate and a device reads that data using your MAIR encoding
> > above, is the device guaranteed to see the CPU writes after the CPU has
> > executed a DSB instruction?
> >
> > I don't think so, because the ARM ARM would say that there's a mismatch on
> > the Inner Cacheability attribute.
> >
> >> > Why don't normal
> >> > non-cacheable mappings allocated in the LLC by default?
> >>
> >> Sorry, I couldn't fully understand your question here.
> >> Few of the masters on qcom socs are not io-coherent, so for them
> >> the IC has to be marked as 0.
> >
> > By IC you mean Inner Cacheability? In your MAIR encoding above, it is zero
> > so I don't understand the problem. What goes wrong if non-coherent devices
> > use your MAIR encoding for their DMA buffers?
> >
> >> But they are able to use the LLC with OC marked as 1.
> >
> > The issue here is that whatever attributes we put in the SMMU need to align
> > with the attributes used by the CPU in order to avoid introducing mismatched
> > aliases. Currently, we support three types of mapping in the SMMU:
> >
> > 1. DMA non-coherent (e.g. "dma-coherent" is not set on the device)
> >         Normal, Inner Shareable, Inner/Outer Non-Cacheable
> >
> > 2. DMA coherent (e.g. "dma-coherent" is set on the device) [IOMMU_CACHE]
> >         Normal, Inner Shareable, Inner/Outer Cacheable, Inner/Outer
> >         Write-back, Non-transient Read/Write-allocate
> >
> > 3. MMIO (e.g. MSI doorbell) [IOMMU_MMIO]
> >         Device-nGnRE (Outer Shareable)
> >
> > So either you override one of these types (I was suggesting (1)) or you need
> > to create a new memory type, along with the infrastructure for it to be
> > recognised on a per-device basis and used by the DMA API so that we don't
> > get mismatched aliases on the CPU.
> 
> My apologies for delay in responding to this thread.
> I have been digging and getting in touch with internal tech teams
> to get more information on this. I will update as soon as I have enough
> details.
> Thanks.

Hi Vivek.  I want to revive this discussion. I believe that Andy has pulled
in the base LLCC support so this the remaining dependency we need to implement
the LLCC in the GPU driver. 

Thanks,
Jordan

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