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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 09:34:01 +0800
From: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@...wei.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@....com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
CC: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: memory: move mem_cgroup_charge() into
 alloc_anon_folio()



On 2024/1/16 23:07, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 14:51, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 02:35:54PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>> On 16/01/2024 07:13, Kefeng Wang wrote:
>>>> In order to allocate as much as possible of large folio, move
>>>> the mem charge into alloc_anon_folio() and try the next order
>>>> if mem_cgroup_charge() fails, also we change the GFP_KERNEL
>>>> to gfp to be consistent with PMD THP.
>>>
>>> I agree that changing gfp gives you consistency. But it's not entirely clear to
>>> me why THP should use one set of flags for this case, and since pages another.
>>> Why does this difference exist?
>>
>> I think it needs to be spelled out much better in the changelog.  Here's
>> my attempt at explaining why we might want this change.
>>
>> mem_cgroup_charge() uses the GFP flags in a fairly sophisticated way.
>> In addition to checking gfpflags_allow_blocking(), it pays attention to
>> __GFP_NORETRY and __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL to ensure that processes within
>> this memcg do not exceed their quotas.  Using the same GFP flags ensures
>> that we handle large anonymous folios correctly, including falling back
>> to smaller orders when there is plenty of memory available in the system
>> but this memcg is close to its limits.
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. Please add to the commit log.

Thanks, it is much better, will update, a similar change in THP, see
commit 3b3636924dfe "mm, memcg: sync allocation and memcg charge gfp
flags for THP".

> 
> Essentially you are saying that previously, all mTHP allocations would cause
> reclaim from the memcg if the allocation caused the quota to be used up. But
> with this change, it might now avoid that reclaim and just OOM, if the flags are
> as such? So then we retry with the next lowest available size. Makes sense!
> 

With correct GFP, we could get less reclaim and faster fallabck to next 
order, that's what I want too.

> 
>>
>> ... I remain not-an-expert in memcg and anonymous memory and welcome
>> improvements to that text.
> 
> Me too...

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