linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v14 21/22] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{PAUSE,RESUME}

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 17:10:10 -0700
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Michael Roth <michael.roth@....com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 21/22] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{PAUSE,RESUME}_ATTESTATION
 commands

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, Michael Roth wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:57:08PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, Michael Roth wrote:
> > What is "management"?  I assume its some userspace daemon?
> 
> It could be a daemon depending on cloud provider, but the main example
> we have in mind is something more basic like virtee[1] being used to
> interactively perform an update at the command-line. E.g. you point it
> at the new VLEK, the new cert, and it will handle updating the certs at
> some known location and issuing the SNP_LOAD_VLEK command. With this
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> interface, it can take the additional step of PAUSE'ing attestations
> before performing either update to keep the 2 actions in sync with the
> guest view.

..

> > without having to bounce through the kernel.  It doesn't even require a push
> > model, e.g. wrap/redirect the certs with a file that has a "pause" flag and a
> > sequence counter.
> 
> We could do something like flag the certificate file itself, it does
> sounds less painful than the above. But what defines that spec?

Whoever defines "some known location".  And it doesn't need to be a file wrapper,
e.g. put the cert in a directory along with a lock.  Actually, IIUC, there doesn't
even need to be a separate lock file.  I know very little about userspace programming,
but common sense and a quick search tells me that file locks are a solved problem.

E.g. it took me ~5 minutes of Googling to come up with this, which AFAICT does
exactly what you want.

touch ~/vlek.cert
(
  flock -e 200
  echo "Locked the cert, sleeping for 10 seconds"
  sleep 10
  echo "Igor, it's alive!!!!!!"
) 200< vlek.cert

touch ~/vlek.cert
(
  flock -s 201
  echo "Got me a shared lock, no updates for you!"
) 201< vlek.cert