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Date:	Tue, 29 May 2007 19:23:22 +0200
From:	Maximilian Engelhardt <maxi@...monizer.de>
To:	"Gary Zambrano" <zambrano@...adcom.com>
Cc:	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"Michael Buesch" <mb@...sch.de>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-wireless" <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@...stprotocols.net>,
	"Jeff Garzik" <jgarzik@...ox.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend)

On Tuesday 29 May 2007, Gary Zambrano wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 13:55 -0700, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > On Monday 28 May 2007, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 19:44 +0200, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > > > > Can you please keep CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS and CONFIG_NOHZ and try
> > > > > the following combinations on the kernel command line:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) highres=off nohz=off (should be the same as your working config)
> > > > > 2) highres=off
> > > > > 3) nohz=off
> > > >
> > > > I tested this with my 2.6.22-rc3 kernel, here are the results:
> > > >
> > > > without any special boot parameters: problem does appear
> > > > highres=off nohz=off: problem does not appear
> > > > highres=off: problem does not appear
> > > > nohz=off: problem does appear
> > >
> > > Is there any other strange behavior of the high res enabled kernel than
> > > the b44 problem ?
> >
> > I didn't notice anything.
> >
> > > > I additionally built my 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 kernel without High Resolution
> > > > Timer, but the high ping problem is still there.
> > >
> > > Hmm, that's mysterious. Wild guess is that highres exposes the hidden
> > > "feature" in a different way than rc2-mm1 does.
> >
> > I think the bug in 2.6.21/22-rc3 is a different one that the one in
> > 2.6.22-rc2-mm1, but that's also only a wild guess :)
> >
> > I'll explain this a bit:
> > In 2.6.21/22-rc3 is the same b44 driver that has been in the stock
> > kernels for some time. With this driver and High Resolution Timer turned
> > on I get problems using iperf. The problems are that the systems becomes
> > really slow and unresponsive.  Michael Buesch thought this could be an
> > IRQ storm which sounds logical to me. This bug did never happen to me
> > before I startet the iperf test.
>
> Can you please check to see if you notice anything out of the ordinary
> using netperf in place of iperf in your high res timer on/off testbed?

ok, here are the results, I also had a look at the cpu kernel usage.
'good' means that the kernel responsiveness during the test was as I would 
expect it and I didn't notice any problems.

highres enabled:

netperf: 80%sy 15%si (good)
iperf: not really messureable (bad, problem described above)

highres disabled:

netperf: 80%sy 15%si (good)
iperf:  5%sy 30%hi 15%si (good)


for test tests I did run the following commands:
netperf -l 60 192.168.1.1
iperf -c 192.168.1.1 -r -t 60

I also tried to run iperf without any additional arguments (iperf -c 
192.168.1.1) on the problematic kernel but the result is the same as the 
command I wrote above.

Maxi

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