lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:13:04 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, David Newall <davidn@...idnewall.com>
Cc:	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, david@...g.hm,
	Stephen Clark <sclark46@...thlink.net>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>,
	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...p.cc>, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu,
	Mark Lord <lkml@....ca>, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	jesper.juhl@...il.com, yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org, jeff@...zik.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, git@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection

On Wednesday, 16 of April 2008, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:04:59PM +0930, David Newall wrote:
> > Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > Well, even if someone introduces bugs relatively frequently, but then also
> > > works with the reporters and fixes the bugs timely, it's about okay IMO.
> > >   
> > This really is not okay.  Even if bugs are fixed a version or two later,
> > the impact those bugs have on users makes the system look bad and drives
> > them away.  We do not, I believe, want Linux to top the list for "most
> > bugs".  It's unprofessional, unreliable and quite undesirable.
> 
> that's what -rc are for, and it's unprofessional to use them in production :-)

Exactly.

And BTW, by saying "timely" I meant "in -rc" or "before the next major release".

Thanks,
Rafael
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Powered by blists - more mailing lists