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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:35:12 -0700 From: "Ray Lee" <ray-lk@...rabbit.org> To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl> Cc: "David Newall" <davidn@...idnewall.com>, "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com>, sverre@...belier.nl, git@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "James Morris" <jmorris@...ei.org>, "Al Viro" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, "Willy Tarreau" <w@....eu>, david@...g.hm, "Stephen Clark" <sclark46@...thlink.net>, "Evgeniy Polyakov" <johnpol@....mipt.ru>, "Tilman Schmidt" <tilman@...p.cc>, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, "Mark Lord" <lkml@....ca>, "David Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org, jeff@...zik.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...k.pl> wrote: > > Finger-pointing, in these extreme cases, gives incentive to improve > > quality. It's a positive thing. > > Sorry, but I have to disagree. Negative finger-pointing is never a good thing. Correct, but let's be careful here. The original suggestion was, effectively, to get better metrics on the quality of contributions. Those metrics *could* be used for finger pointing, or (my preference) they could be used to direct and allocate our scarce resources: code reviews and mentoring. There's no way to know what the metrics will tell us until we have them. Arguing against metrics because they *may* be used to point fingers at people is a silly argument; anything can be subverted to do that. Let's get some measurements and see what they say. In the meantime, try to believe that they could be put to good purposes, such as identifying code areas that are tricky for contributors to get right (independent of contributor), or contributors that could benefit from code reviews, etc. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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