netdev - Re: [RFC] updated Patch to option HSO driver to the kernel

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Date:	Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:09:35 -0400
From:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
Cc:	Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@...tonika.lt>,
	linux-usb@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] updated Patch to option HSO driver to the kernel

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 03:03:30PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Freitag, 25. April 2008 14:31:47 schrieb Paulius Zaleckas:
> > - do we really need ethtool support? It always reports that
> > ?? ??link is up... The only useful information is driver name,
> > ?? ??version and USB path... Is it worth it?
> 
> Yes. NetworkManager does strange things to devices without ethtool
> support. NetworkManager is important.

So we hack around broken userspace in the kernel now?  What about using
your energy to fix up NetworkManager (yes, I know it's crap code, but
life is hard sometimes)

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