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Date:	Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, jeff@...zik.org,
	andi@...stfloor.org, tytso@....edu, hugh@...itas.com,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com,
	mchan@...adcom.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, David Woodhouse wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 13:52 -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 13:17 -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
>>>> if David W were to make it possible to not use the load_firmware() call to
>>>> userspace and build the firmware into the driver (be it in a monolithic
>>>> kernel or the module that contains the driver)
>>>
>>> You _can_ build the firmware into the kernel.
>>
>> right, but not into a module. you have half of the answer in place, but
>> not all of it.
>
> The useful half. If you have userspace to load modules, you have
> userspace to load firmware too.

it's the half where there isn't a work-around (and therefor the most 
critical part), but it's also the half that is used less, so in terms of 
user impact it could be argued that the part not yet done will cause more 
pain.

David Lang
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