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Date:	Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:36:25 -0800 (PST)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	herbert@...dor.apana.org.au
Cc:	marcel@...tmann.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IFF_RUNNING without carrier after reboot

From: Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:28:00 +1100

> David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> wrote:
> >
> > The RUNNING state has no connection to link presence.
> > 
> > It just means that the device has been brought up by a
> > user configuration command like the ifconfig you ran.
> > 
> > It really means nothing else.
> 
> Well RUNNING did use to indicate carrier state.  In fact I didn't
> even know that it had changed until this email :)
> 
> This is the changeset which did it:

Yes, it was a bug and we fixed it more than 2 years ago.
Thanks for confirming :-)
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