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Date:	Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:34:14 +0100
From:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>
To:	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>
CC:	Rick Jones <rick.jones2@...com>,
	Netfilter Developers <netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Network Development list <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>
Subject: Re: 32 core net-next stack/netfilter "scaling"

Eric Dumazet a écrit :
> Patrick McHardy a écrit :
>> Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>> Rick Jones a écrit :
>>>> Anyhow, the spread on trans/s/netperf is now 600 to 500 or 6000, which
>>>> does represent an improvement.
>>>>
>>> Yes indeed you have a speedup, tcp conntracking is OK.
>>>
>>> You now hit the nf_conntrack_lock spinlock we have in generic
>>> conntrack code (net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core.c)
>>>
>>> nf_ct_refresh_acct() for instance has to lock it.
>>>
>>> We really want some finer locking here.
>> That looks more complicated since it requires to take multiple locks
>> occasionally (f.i. hash insertion, potentially helper-related and
>> expectation-related stuff), and there is the unconfirmed_list, where
>> fine-grained locking can't really be used without changing it to
>> a hash.
>>
> 
> Yes its more complicated, but look what we did in 2.6.29 for tcp/udp
>  sockets, using RCU to have lockless lookups.
> Yes, we still take a lock when doing an insert or delete at socket
> bind/unbind time.
> 
> We could keep a central nf_conntrack_lock to guard insertions/deletes
> from hash and unconfirmed_list.
> 
> But *normal* packets that only need to change state of one particular
> connection could use RCU (without spinlock) to locate the conntrack,
> then lock the found conntrack to perform all state changes.

Well... RCU is already used by conntrack :)

Maybe only __nf_ct_refresh_acct() needs not taking nf_conntrack_lock



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