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Date:	Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:23:11 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc:	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Rick Jones <rick.jones2@...com>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org, tglx@...utronix.de,
	Martin Josefsson <gandalf@...g.westbo.se>
Subject: Re: [patch] timers: add mod_timer_pending()


* Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> wrote:

> On 02/18, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > Based on an idea from Stephen Hemminger: introduce
> >  mod_timer_pending() which is a mod_timer() offspring
> > that is an invariant on already removed timers.
> 
> This also can be used by workqueues, see
> 
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=122209752020413
> 
> but can't we add another helper? Because,
> 
> > +static inline int
> > +__mod_timer(struct timer_list *timer, unsigned long expires, bool pending_only)
> >  {
> >  	struct tvec_base *base, *new_base;
> >  	unsigned long flags;
> > -	int ret = 0;
> > +	int ret;
> > +
> > +	ret = 0;
> >
> >  	timer_stats_timer_set_start_info(timer);
> >  	BUG_ON(!timer->function);
> > @@ -614,6 +617,9 @@ int __mod_timer(struct timer_list *timer
> >  	if (timer_pending(timer)) {
> >  		detach_timer(timer, 0);
> >  		ret = 1;
> > +	} else {
> > +		if (pending_only)
> > +			goto out_unlock;
> 
> This can change the base (CPU) of the pending timer.
> 
> How about
> 
> 	int __update_timer(struct timer_list *timer, unsigned long expires)
> 	{
> 		struct tvec_base *base;
> 		unsigned long flags;
> 		int ret = 0;
> 
> 		base = lock_timer_base(timer, &flags);
> 		if (timer_pending(timer)) {
> 			detach_timer(timer, 0);
> 			timer->expires = expires;
> 			internal_add_timer(base, timer);
> 			ret = 1;
> 		}
> 		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&base->lock, flags);
> 
> 		return ret;
> 	}
> 
> ?
> 
> Unlike __mod_timer(..., bool pending_only), it preserves the CPU on
> which the timer is pending.
> 
> Or, perhaps, we can modify __mod_timer() further,
> 
> 	static inline int
> 	__mod_timer(struct timer_list *timer, unsigned long expires, bool pending_only)
> 	{
> 		struct tvec_base *base;
> 		unsigned long flags;
> 		int ret;
> 
> 		ret = 0;
> 
> 		timer_stats_timer_set_start_info(timer);
> 		BUG_ON(!timer->function);
> 
> 		base = lock_timer_base(timer, &flags);
> 
> 		if (timer_pending(timer)) {
> 			detach_timer(timer, 0);
> 			ret = 1;
> 		} else if (pending_only)
> 			goto out_unlock;
> 		}
> 
> 		debug_timer_activate(timer);
> 
> 		if (!pending_only) {
> 			struct tvec_base *new_base = __get_cpu_var(tvec_bases);
> 
> 			if (base != new_base) {
> 				/*
> 				 * We are trying to schedule the timer on the local CPU.
> 				 * However we can't change timer's base while it is running,
> 				 * otherwise del_timer_sync() can't detect that the timer's
> 				 * handler yet has not finished. This also guarantees that
> 				 * the timer is serialized wrt itself.
> 				 */
> 				if (likely(base->running_timer != timer)) {
> 					/* See the comment in lock_timer_base() */
> 					timer_set_base(timer, NULL);
> 					spin_unlock(&base->lock);
> 					base = new_base;
> 					spin_lock(&base->lock);
> 					timer_set_base(timer, base);
> 				}
> 			}
> 		}
> 
> 		timer->expires = expires;
> 		internal_add_timer(base, timer);
> 
> 	out_unlock:
> 		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&base->lock, flags);
> 
> 		return ret;
> 	}
> 
> What do you all think?

if then i'd put it into a separate commit.

I think the auto-migration of all the mod_timer() variants is a 
scalability feature: if for example a networking socket's main 
user migrates to another CPU, then the timer 'follows' it - even 
if the timer never actually expires (which is quite common for 
high-speed high-reliability networking transports).

By keeping it on the same CPU we'd allow the timer's and the 
task's affinity to differ.

Agreed?

	Ingo
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