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Date:	Tue, 5 May 2009 07:04:37 +0200
From:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
To:	Matthias Saou 
	<thias@...m.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Wrong network usage reported by /proc

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:11:51PM +0200, Matthias Saou wrote:
> Eric Dumazet wrote :
> 
> > Matthias Saou a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm posting here as a last resort. I've got lots of heavily used RHEL5
> > > servers (2.6.18 based) that are reporting all sorts of impossible
> > > network usage values through /proc, leading to unrealistic snmp/cacti
> > > graphs where the outgoing bandwidth used it higher than the physical
> > > interface's maximum speed.
> > > 
> > > For some details and a test script which compares values from /proc
> > > with values from tcpdump :
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489541
> > > 
> > > The values collected using tcpdump always seem realistic and match the
> > > values seen on the remote network equipments. So my obvious conclusion
> > > (but possibly wrong given my limited knowledge) is that something is
> > > wrong in the kernel, since it's the one exposing the /proc interface.
> > > 
> > > I've reproduced what seems to be the same problem on recent kernels,
> > > including the 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64 I'm running right now. The
> > > simple python script available here allows to see it quite easily :
> > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-list/2009-February/msg00166.html
> > > 
> > >  * I run the script on my Workstation, I have an FTP server enabled
> > >  * I download a DVD ISO from a remote workstation : The values match
> > >  * I start ping floods from remote workstations : The values reported
> > >    by /proc are much higher than the ones reported by tcpdump. I used
> > >    "ping -s 500 -f myworkstation" from two remote workstations
> > > 
> > > If there's anything flawed in my debugging, I'd love to have someone
> > > point it out to me. TIA to anyone willing to have a look.
> > > 
> > > Matthias
> > > 
> > 
> > I could not reproduce this here... what kind of NIC are you using on
> > affected systems ? Some ethernet drivers report stats from card itself,
> > and I remember seeing some strange stats on some hardware, but I cannot
> > remember which one it was (we were reading NULL values instead of
> > real ones, once in a while, maybe it was a firmware issue...)
> 
> My workstation has a Broadcom BCM5752 (tg3 module). The servers which
> are most affected have Intel 82571EB (e1000e). But the issue is that
> with /proc, the values are a lot _higher_ than with tcpdump, and the
> tcpdump values seem to be the correct ones.

the e1000 chip reports stats every 2 seconds. So you have to collect
stats every 2 seconds otherwise you get "camel-looking" stats.

Willy

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