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Date:	Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:45:58 +0100
From:	Mark McLoughlin <markmc@...hat.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, herbert@...dor.apana.org.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bridge: make bridge-nf-call-*tables default
 configurable

On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 20:16 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@...hat.com>
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:27:47 +0100
> 
> > For these reasons, it makes sense to allow distributions to disable
> > netfilter on the bridge by default and require those specialized users
> > to enable it explicitly via sysctl.
> 
> I heard that distributions ship some file, what's it called...
> something like /etc/sysctl.conf :-)
> 
> Really, if someone thinkgs the default stinks and dists don't like it
> for their users, they can use sysctl.conf to set it how they please.

If upstream agrees the default stinks, then upstream could start making
moves towards rectifying it :-)

I like Patrick's idea of adding it to feature-removal-schedule

> Notwithstanding that changing this default can break working
> setups and scripts.  Yes they can "change", but they were just
> (rightly) using the kernel as it came to them.

Yep, that's a valid concern.

Weighing up the impact on the small number of people who use it versus
the ongoing impact on everyone else, I think it's best to make the
change.

Cheers,
Mark.

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