lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:02:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	herbert@...dor.apana.org.au
Cc:	christophe@...ut.de, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fixing up TCP/UDP checksum for UDP encap. ESP4 packets
 in transport mode

From: Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:58:50 +0800

> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 06:54:11PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm, aren't we talking about packets which were protected by either a
>> hash, strong encryption, or both at some point?
> 
> Only if there is no inner NAT, i.e., only if this patch isn't
> needed.  Otherwise
> 
> Source  ---  GW1  ----  GW2  ---  Dest
> 
> the path between Source and GW1, will be unprotected if transport
> mode is used between GW1 and GW2.  The only bit protected by IPsec's
> hash is between GW1 and GW2.
> 
> When the traffic comes back, then the bit between Dest and GW2 will
> be unprotected.  This is why the only safe way to use this would be
> if your traffic is one-way and you only had inner NAT at the other
> end.

I see.  So people are using transport IPSEC + NAT as a kind of
specialized tunnel.

Indeed, there is no way to handle checksums sanely.  The whole
end-to-end protection of the checksum would be entirely subverted
if we fixed it up.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Powered by blists - more mailing lists