netdev - Re: Strange TCP behavior over HSDPA

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Date:	Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:30:50 +0000
From:	Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@...il.com>
To:	Kristian Evensen <kristian.evensen@...il.com>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Strange TCP behavior over HSDPA

On 28-12-2009 13:56, Kristian Evensen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a laptop running Ubuntu 9.04 with the 2.6.32.2-kernel and the machine
> connects to the internet using HSDPA. When transferring files (from the same
> server) using TCP I notice that the connection often experience severe drops
> in throughput. Often, it takes over a second for the (fast) retransmission
> to arrive.
> 
> First I thought this might be due to poor network conditions, but when
> testing tunnels (L2TP and PPTP) I noticed that the throughput was more
> stable and the average higher. It seems like the retransmission is sent and
> arrives quicker than without tunnels. The drops last for a shorter period of
> time and does not affect the performance that much. Based on my
> understanding of the tunneling protocols, they offer no reliability for data
> and according to my ISP UDP and TCP packets are treated equally.
> 
> I have performed several experiments (adjusting the MTU, MSS and running the
> tests from different places) trying to figure out why tunnels perform better
> than without tunnels, but I have not been able to come up with an answer.
> The different experiments all give the same result. So my question is, has
> anyone experienced anything similar or have an idea as to why the tunnels
> perform better?
> 
> The HSDPA-modems I have used are the Huawei E220 and Sierra Wireless Aircard
> 880u. If anyone is interested in looking at the packet dumps, they can be
> found here [1] and here [2]. [1] is without tunnels and a typical packet
> loss is shown at packet 1705, while [2] is without tunnels and a typical
> packet loss is shown at 3381.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Kristian
> 
> [1] - http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~kristrev/hsdpa-captures/loss_hsdpa.pcap 
> [2] - http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~kristrev/hsdpa-captures/loss_hsdpa_tunnel.pcap

The most obvious difference seems to be the SACK option used in [2],
so maybe something on the route breaks it (without tunnels).

Jarek P.
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