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Date:	Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:19:50 -0500
From:	jamal <hadi@...erus.ca>
To:	Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>
Cc:	davem@...emloft.net, kaber@...sh.net, herbert@...dor.apana.org.au,
	yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org, nakam@...ux-ipv6.org,
	eric.dumazet@...il.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH]xfrm: fix perpetual bundles

Hi Steffen,

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 11:40 +0100, Steffen Klassert wrote:

> 
> Do you have CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY enabled?

I tried with and without. If in xfrm_bundle_create()
after the call to xfrm_fill_dst() somewhere i "fixed" the
xdst->u.rt.fl.fl4_src, as in:
---
                err = xfrm_fill_dst(xdst, dev);
                if (err)
                        goto free_dst;
 

+               if (!xdst->u.rt.fl.fl4_src) {
+                       xdst->u.rt.fl.fl4_src = fl->fl4_src;
+		}
----

Then this worked as long as i turned off CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY.
If i use the simple patch i posted - it worked with or without
CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY turned on.

> I observed the same behaviour recently when I had CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY
> enabled. The problem in my case is, that we do a route lookup based on a flow
> with a source address of 0.0.0.0 in ip_route_output_flow() if we send a ping
> packet. Then we update the flow's source address based on the routing
> informations we got from __ip_route_output_key(). Now the actual flow does
> not match the the flow information in the routing table anymore. As a result,
> we generate a new xfrm bundle entry with every ping packet, as you pointed out.
> 

nod.

> I solved this by rerunning __ip_route_output_key() if we change the source or
> destination address of the flow (patch below). I have not send the patch so
> far because I'm not that familiar with the routing code and I'm still not sure
> whether this is the right way to fix it, so I wanted to do some further
> analysis first.
> 
> Interestingly this does not happen if CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY is disabled.
>
> When ping is started, it opens a udp socket. This triggers a xfrm_lookup()
> and a xfrm bundle entry is generated. In the standard case, the flow of the
> ping packets matching the flow informations from the bundle entry generated 
> by the opening of the udp socket, because we don't care for the upper layer
> flow information here. Unlike the standard case, if CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY is
> enabled we do upper layer information matching with flow_cache_uli_match().

Precisely - i actually was failing at exactly the same spot with
CONFIG_XFRM_SUB_POLICY with the "fix" i described above. 
"Fixing it" at that path level you have below may have bigger effect - i
cant think of one right now; but that path is hit by all outgoing
packets...

Lets hear what other people have to say - but iam beginning to feel
probably the change i posted is not so unreasonable since 0.0.0.0
is INADDR_ANY.

cheers,
jamal

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