netdev - Re: linux kernel's IPV6_MULTICAST_HOPS default is 64; should be 1?

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Date:	Thu, 06 May 2010 00:10:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	brian.haley@...com
Cc:	dlstevens@...ibm.com, enh@...gle.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux kernel's IPV6_MULTICAST_HOPS default is 64; should be 1?

From: Brian Haley <brian.haley@...com>
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:50:18 -0400

> David Miller wrote:
>> From: Brian Haley <brian.haley@...com>
>> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 11:36:31 -0400
>> 
>>> I now see that in Elliot's email, but I think it's incorrect.  The RFC
>>> says that setting it to -1 should get you the kernel default, which is
>>> now 1.  Without this change, setting it to -1 will get you 64, the
>>> old behavior.  If the user wants to, they can always just set it to
>>> 64 themselves, that's better than assuming when you set it to -1
>>> you're going to get 64.
>> 
>> It's not 64, it's whatever the per-route metric is.
> 
> Not unless that metric's been set via RTAX_HOPLIMIT (and I believe
> this is the unicast hop limit value anyways), and that metric
> defaults to -1.

Right, if it is, and anyone who does set it and expects the default
multicast hop limit to follow along have no portable way to code their
application in a way that works before and after fixing the RFC
issues.

I gave them a way, by making explicit setting of "-1" do what it's
always done.

> At this point in time I'll gladly implement a per-interface sysctl
> to end this discussion.

The game is over, the result decided, and this is just post-game
discussion as far as I'm concerned. :-)

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