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Date:	Thu, 19 May 2011 14:36:30 -0500
From:	Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>
To:	Micha Nelissen <micha@...i.hopto.org>
Cc:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] ipconfig wait for carrier

On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 21:24 +0200, Micha Nelissen wrote:
> Dan Williams wrote:
> > Shouldn't the code still wait at *least* one second?  Not all drivers
> > support carrier detect, and those that don't set the carrier always-on.
> > Thus older devices that used to have 1s to get carrier in line (even if
> > they don't report it) now have only 10ms.
> 
> Btw, it does not matter much, there are 2 cases:
> 1) DHCP: dhcp will retry every few seconds, so if link is not up, then a
> later try will succeed
> 2) Static IP: an ARP request is performed every second, so the second
> request will be answered instead of the first.
> 
> Even if link is "fake up" by driver and not actually up after 10 msecs,
> things will continue to work (eventually), after a second, just like now.

I don't particularly care what happens here, I was simply pointing out
that previous assumptions about older driver behavior are broken by this
patch, and this can cause a change in behavior.  The simplest thing to
do here is to revert only the hunks that change CONF_POST_OPEN, ie set
CONF_POST_OPEN back to 1, and revert the ssleep() -> msleep() bit.  The
rest of it looks fine to me.

But if davem wants to take the patch anyway, that's fine with me too,
since I believe all drivers that don't support carrier detect should be
put out of their misery by a quick bullet to the back of the head at the
end of a dark alley anyway.

Dan


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