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Date:	Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:31:06 -0700
From:	Maciej Żenczykowski <zenczykowski@...il.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, bazsi@...abit.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: change capability used by socket options IP{,V6}_TRANSPARENT

> I don't see any real benefit.
>
> If it has been decided that you can't create a new capability for
> tproxy, so that tasks can be segregated out of these more powerful
> networking capability levels, I simply don't see the point.

It indeed seems that transparent may be a little too specific a capability.
Ultimately linux permissions are just not fine grained enough...
unless you start using LSMs

> A process with CAP_NET_RAW can spit whatever crap they want onto the
> network, and receive all packets with impunity.

Agreed.  But it can do so via raw sockets, it cannot do so via normal
udp/tcp/ip sockets.
That's why I'd like to relax the permissions check on being able to
switch a socket
into transparent mode.  A process with CAP_NET_RAW can already pretty
much emulate
that behaviour by using raw sockets - it just can't do that using the
higher level, often more
usable/useful socket/protocol apis.

> I can't see what this buys us at all, sorry.

See above.
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