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Date:	Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:35:47 +0200
From:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
To:	Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com>
Cc:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	Rick Jones <rick.jones2@...com>,
	Tom Parkin <tparkin@...alix.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	David.Laight@...LAB.COM, James Chapman <jchapman@...alix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates

On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 14:31 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:

> For an example, see the VLAN code. rx-errors and tx-dropped are only 32-bit
> counters.  Now, in the real world, we wouldn't expect those counters to
> increase at high rates, but they are still 32-bit counters masquerading
> as 64, and they could wrap after a while, so any code that expected a wrap
> to mean a 64-bit wrap would be wrong.
> 
> At the time I was last complaining, there were lots more cases
> of this that I was fighting with, but I don't recall exactly what they
> were.  Once my user-space code got paranoid enough, it was able to
> at least mostly deal with 32 and 64 wraps.

Good, you now know how to deal correctly with these things.

Using 64bit fields for tx_dropped is what I call kernel bloat.

If only all drops were correctly accounted...

I believe 50% of drivers are buggy in this aspect.



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