Date:	Sat, 8 Dec 2012 04:31:11 +0100
From:	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>
To:	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>
Cc:	netfilter-devel <netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, kaber <kaber@...sh.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] netfilter: add xt_bpf xtables match

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:56:05AM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 03:10:13PM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org> wrote:
> >> > Hi Willem,
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 02:22:19PM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> >> >> A new match that executes sk_run_filter on every packet. BPF filters
> >> >> can access skbuff fields that are out of scope for existing iptables
> >> >> rules, allow more expressive logic, and on platforms with JIT support
> >> >> can even be faster.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a corresponding iptables patch that takes `tcpdump -ddd`
> >> >> output, as used in the examples below. The two parts communicate
> >> >> using a variable length structure. This is similar to ebt_among,
> >> >> but new for iptables.
> >> >>
> >> >> Verified functionality by inserting an ip source filter on chain
> >> >> INPUT and an ip dest filter on chain OUTPUT and noting that ping
> >> >> failed while a rule was active:
> >> >>
> >> >> iptables -v -A INPUT -m bpf --bytecode '4,32 0 0 12,21 0 1 $SADDR,6 0 0 96,6 0 0 0,' -j DROP
> >> >> iptables -v -A OUTPUT -m bpf --bytecode '4,32 0 0 16,21 0 1 $DADDR,6 0 0 96,6 0 0 0,' -j DROP
> >> >
> >> > I like this BPF idea for iptables.
> >> >
> >> > I made a similar extension time ago, but it was taking a file as
> >> > parameter. That file contained in BPF code. I made a simple bison
> >> > parser that takes BPF code and put it into the bpf array of
> >> > instructions. It would be a bit more intuitive to define a filter and
> >> > we can distribute it with iptables.
> >>
> >> That's cleaner, indeed. I actually like how tcpdump operates as a
> >> code generator if you pass -ddd. Unfortunately, it generates code only
> >> for link layer types of its supported devices, such as DLT_EN10MB and
> >> DLT_LINUX_SLL. The network layer interface of basic iptables
> >> (forgetting device dependent mechanisms as used in xt_mac) is DLT_RAW,
> >> but that is rarely supported.
> >
> > Indeed, you'll have to hack on tcpdump to select the offset. In
> > iptables the base is the layer 3 header. With that change you could
> > use tcpdump for generate code automagically from their syntax.
> >
> >> > Let me check on my internal trees, I can put that user-space code
> >> > somewhere in case you're interested.
> >>
> >> Absolutely. I'll be happy to revise to get it in. I'm also considering
> >> sending a patch to tcpdump to make it generate code independent of the
> >> installed hardware when specifying -y.
> >
> > I found a version of the old parser code I made:
> >
> > http://1984.lsi.us.es/git/nfbpf/
> >
> > It interprets a filter expressed in a similar way to tcpdump -dd but
> > it's using the BPF constants. It's quite preliminary and simple if you
> > look at the code.
> >
> > Extending it to interpret some syntax similar to tcpdump -d would even
> > make more readable the BPF filter.
> >
> > Time ago I also thought about taking the kernel code that checks that
> > the filter is correct. Currently you get -EINVAL if you pass a
> > handcrafted filter which is incorrect, so it's hard task to debug what
> > you made wrong.
> >
> > It could be added to the iptables tree. Or if generic enough for BPF
> > and the effort is worth, just provide some small library that iptables
> > can link with and a small compiler/checker to help people develop BPF
> > filters.
> 
> Or use pcap_compile? I went with the tcpdump output to avoid
> introducing a direct dependency on pcap to iptables. One possible
> downside I see to pcap_compile vs. developing from scratch is that it
> might lag in supporting the LSF ancillary data fields.

I suggest to put the code of that preliminary nfbpf utility into
iptables to allow to read the BPF filters from a file and put them
into the BPF array of instructions. I can help with that.

> > Back to your xt_bpf thing, we can use the file containing the code
> > instead:
> >
> > iptables -v -A INPUT -m bpf --bytecode-file filter1.bpf -j DROP
> > iptables -v -A OUTPUT -m bpf --bytecode-file filter2.bpf -j DROP
> >
> > We can still allow the inlined filter via --bytecode if you want.
> 
> I'll add that. I'd like to keep --bytecode to able to generate the
> code inline using backticks.

As said, I'm fine with that, but I'll be really happy if we can
provide some utility to generate that code using backticks for the
masses (in case they want to pass it inlined in that format).
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