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Date:	Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:27:32 -0800
From:	Eric Dumazet <erdnetdev@...il.com>
To:	Zhiyun Qian <zhiyunq@...ch.edu>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP sequence number inference attack on Linux

On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 14:10 -0500, Zhiyun Qian wrote:
> That's good to know. However, implementing RFC 5961 alone is not
> sufficient. Like I said, since DelayedAckLost counter is incremented
> purely upon looking at the sequence number, regardless of the ACK
> number. An attacker thus can still infer the sequence number based on
> DelayedAckLost counter without knowing the right ACK number.
> 



> The next question is how can the attacker eventually know the right
> ACK number in order to inject real data. It turns out that this is not
> hard either. First, based on the current Linux TCP stack, it accepts
> incoming packets without ACK flag. 

I dont really think so.

We must discard frame is th->ack is not set. (Step 5, line 6142)



> Further, if ACK flag is not set,
> ACK number will not be checked at all. See code in
> net/ipv4/tcp_input.c, function tcp_rcv_established()
> 
> 5547        if (th->ack && tcp_ack(sk, skb, FLAG_SLOWPATH) < 0)
> 5548                goto discard;
> 
> Second, even if ACK number is always checked before accepting the
> payload, it is still possible to infer the ACK number much like how
> sequence number can be inferred. The details is described in Section
> 3.4 of my paper, paragraph starting with "Client-side sequence number
> inference".
> 
> I'm looking at the latest kernel v3.7.1 right now. I believe the
> problem do still exist in today's Linux.
> 

It seems you know pretty well this code, I wonder why you dont send
patches to fix the bugs...

Its not like it has to be buggy forever.



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