Date:	Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:10:47 +0300
From:	Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@....fi>
To:	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>
CC:	linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] usb: hcd: warn about URB buffers that are not DMA
 aligned and are about to be DMA mapped

On 15.06.2013 15:07, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@....fi> wrote:
>> On 15.06.2013 10:41, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> Cc: netdev
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@....fi> wrote:
>>>> Appearently some out-of-tree USB host drivers do not handle DMA alignment for
>>>
>>> Looks these host drivers have to face the fact that the transfer buffer is often
>>> DMA non-aligned from network device drivers(in fact, the buffer is from
>>> network protocol stack), if you run usbnet, then you will get the added warning
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, getting warning immediately, but once, and blaming host driver seems ok.
> 
> We do know the fact of non-aligned transfer buffer from network, which has been
> for long time, so does it make sense to print warning and annoy people?

It's only printed if host controller driver is not behaving correctly.

I have changed the message to be printed for v2-patch, and it is now:
dev_WARN_ONCE(hcd->self.controller, 1,
	"broken USB host controller driver; does not correctly handle DMA alignment for urb->transfer_buffer (offset: %d).\n",
	dma_offset);

I sent the patch as RFC since I'm not sure.. maybe annoying warnings make
people aware of issues that they don't yet know of and things get fixed?

> 
>>
>>>> URB buffers and let core/hcd.c to do the mapping on architectures that have
>>>> minimum DMA alignment requirements. This leads to random memory corruptions
>>>> and crashes when using USB device drivers that use unaligned URB buffers.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should check the dma mapping/unmapping implementation of
>>> the arch, non-aligned buffer should have be covered by the API easily.
>>>
>>> Also USB Host controller should have supported non-aligned DMA buffer.
>>
>> From what I found, there was some discussion about these issues around 2010:
>>  http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2010-August/022983.html
> 
> From the discussion,  people think that HCD should handle the unaligned buffer,
> right?

Yes, that's how I understood it.

> 
>>
>> To me, it seems that non-aligned buffers cannot be easily handled by all archs
>> at dma mapping/unmapping phase and that HCD driver should do the alignment on
> 
> If the memory which shares cache line with transfer buffer can't be
> accessed during
> DMA transfer(between URB submit and complete), dma mapping/unmapping
> should have handled it.
> 
> About the network transfer buffer case, I think it should be true,
> otherwise there
> should have lots of memory corruption reports about usb network drivers.
> Fortunately, there are seldom such reports.
> 

Another reason why rtl8192cu is so hard, is that it uses pre-allocated array
for buffers of multiple URBs, and more than one transfer buffer can reside on
same cache line.

>> archs that set ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN. For example, ehci_tegra does copy unaligned
>> transfer buffers to temporary aligned buffers before letting them to USB core.
> 
> Yes, if host controller can't handle this, the HCD has to work around
> the problem. Anyway, most of host controllers can deal with the it,
> can't they?

Can they? Maybe they can handle most cases of unaligned buffers, but not some
corner cases, like transfer buffers on same cache line.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Instead of fixing host drivers, users end up posting bug reports against
>>>> those USB device drivers that use unaligned buffers for URB; such as with
>>>> rtl8192cu (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/105631).
>>>
>>> Not only rtl8192cu driver, all USB network device drivers have the problem.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patch makes this issue more visible at core level, and hopefully gives hint
>>>> for future hcd driver implementors about this problem.
>>>
>>> So please find the root cause first, and don't add the noise now.
>>
>> I think the root cause is that host driver is letting pass non-aligned buffers
>> to core on archs that have ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN set.
> 
> No, I don't think so, about the problem, the dma alignment requirement should
> be from your host controller.
> 
> As I said above, dma mapping/unmapping should be capable of dealing with
> the unaligned buffer if no one touches memory which shares cacheline with
> URB->transfer_buffer during URB transfer.

How can you guarantee that when you allow unaligned URB buffers?

You can have the buffer as part of some larger structure and send out async URB.
Then while buffer is DMA mapped and send async to hw, you use other parts of
that structure even if it shares cacheline with the buffer. You might issue
multiple URBs with transfer buffers within same cacheline. I would expect that
to be acceptable or URB documentation should say something against such.

> 
> Looks you need to know why the memory corruption happens. Is it caused
> by non-aligned arch mapping/unmapping? or by host controller hardware when
> dealing with non-aligned transfer buffer?
> 
>> The warning given just before such unaligned buffer is passed to dma_map_single,
>> which requires ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN alignment. This seems reasonable to me.
> 
> ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN means that kmalloc() should return aligned dma buffer.
> 
> Again, you have to accept the fact in which transfer buffer from
> network stack is
> non-aligned.
> 

Yes, that is the message I'm trying to make visible so that host drivers,
that don't handle such, get fixed.

-Jussi

> 
> Thanks,
> 

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