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Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:54:39 -0800
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org>
Cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Samuel Ortiz <samuel@...tiz.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: IrDA woes..

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> So I do have two dongles, because I was afraid of that. Can you tell
> me how to debug *those* just connected to each other? Preferably on
> the same machine, because I'll be traveling soon..

Side note: is there any *reason* why two pty's connected to each other
can't work? They should look very much like a dongle that just doesn't
do any encapsulation of the data, and it really *almost* works. I can
actually get the simulator that uses the irda sockets to run over
them, except it will hang eventually in some timing-dependent manner.

It works well enough that I'd be inclined to blame some kernel bug.
Especially considering that I found what looked like obvious kernel
bugs already (neither of which fixes the hang, though).

             Linus
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