netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: allow > 0 order atomic page alloc in skb_page_frag

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Date:	Thu, 2 Jan 2014 19:42:00 -0500
From:	Debabrata Banerjee <dbavatar@...il.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, mwdalton@...gle.com
Cc:	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	rusty@...tcorp.com.au, mst@...hat.com, jasowang@...hat.com,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	"Banerjee, Debabrata" <dbanerje@...mai.com>, jbaron@...mai.com,
	Joshua Hunt <johunt@...mai.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: allow > 0 order atomic page alloc in skb_page_frag_refill

Currently because of how mm behaves (3.10.y) the code even before the
patch is a problem. I believe what may fix it is if instead of just
removing the conditional on __GFP_WAIT, the initial order > 0
allocation should be made GFP_ATOMIC, then fallback to the original
gfp mask for the order-0 allocations.

On systems that have highly fragmented main memory with pressure,
skb_page_frag_refill() causes problems. mm enters significant
compaction cycles on all cpu's which in itself is bad (add
considerable spinlock contention in isolate_migratepages_range() for
several seconds in kernel at 100% cpu), however even without this
happening basically we have large memory reclaimation when only
allocations from order-3 were necessary. For example, I might see half
the existing page cache on a system (2GB out of 8GB) reclaimed in a
burst, which effectively means the application has to wait even longer
after this compact/reclaim cycle for those pages to be read back from
disk. This is a significant reduction in useful memory from before
skb_page_frag_refill() existed, as one of our systems could run in
steady state will little free memory and 100% fragmentation. Now I see
10-30x more memory free (read: not utilized). Order > 0 allocations
were happening rarely before, now it happens consistently from this
function.

My suggestion above would avoid mm going through
__alloc_pages_direct_compact() and triggering the bad events above. It
will take me several days to try this experiment.

-Debabrata

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> wrote:
>
> There is still feedback and/or minor adjustments being asked for wrt.
> this series.   These changes have been sitting for more than a week
> which is a bit rediculous.
>
> Please resubmit these changes once everything is resolved to
> everyone's satisfaction, thanks.
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