netdev - Re: [PATCH 2/2] gpio: gpiolib: set gpiochip

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Date:	Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:57:32 +0200
From:	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@...sung.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] gpio: gpiolib: set gpiochip_remove retval to void

On 06/09/2014 03:43 PM, David Laight wrote:
> From: Of Andrzej Hajda
> ...
>>> You can't error out on module unload, although that's not really relevant
>>> here. gpiochip_remove() is typically called when the device that registered
>>> the GPIO chip is unbound. And despite some remove() callbacks having a
>>> return type of int you can not abort the removal of a device.
>>
>> It is a design flaw in many subsystems having providers and consumers,
>> not only GPIO. The same situation is with clock providers, regulators,
>> phys, drm_panels, ..., at least it was such last time I have tested it.
>>
>> The problem is that many frameworks assumes that lifetime of provider is
>> always bigger than lifetime of its consumers, and this is wrong
>> assumption - usually it is not possible to prevent unbinding driver from
>> device, so if the device is a provider there is no way to inform
>> consumers about his removal.
>>
>> Some solution for such problems is to use some kind of availability
>> callbacks for requesting resources (gpios, clocks, regulators,...)
>> instead of simple 'getters' (clk_get, gpiod_get). Callbacks should
>> guarantee that the resource is always valid between callback reporting
>> its availability and callback reporting its removal. Such approach seems
>> to be complicated at the first sight but it should allow to make the
>> code safe and as a bonus it will allow to avoid deferred probing.
>> Btw I have send already RFC for such framework [1].
> 
> Callbacks for delete are generally a locking nightmare.
> A two-way handshake is also usually needed to avoid problems
> with concurrent disconnect requests.

The framework I have proposed is lock-less[1] and concurrent requests
are serialized so both objections are invalid.

[1]: in fact the framework uses spinlock, but only to protect internal
list simple operations, and even this could be converted to fully
lock-less implementation.

Andrzej

> 
> 	David
> 

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