netdev - Re: [RFC v2 3/6] kthread: warn on kill signal if not OOM

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Date:	Fri, 5 Sep 2014 23:12:41 +0900
From:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
To:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...not-panic.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/6] kthread: warn on kill signal if not OOM

On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:47:16AM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> Ah -- well without it the way we "find" drivers that need this new
> "async feature" is by a bug report and folks saying their system can't
> boot, or they say their device doesn't come up. That's all. Tracing
> this to systemd and a timeout was one of the most ugliest things ever.
> There two insane bug reports you can go check:
> 
> mptsas was the first:
> 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1669550
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1297248
> 
> Then cxgb4:
> 
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877622
> 
> I only had Cc'd you on the newest gem pata_marvell :
> 
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59581
> 
> We can't seriously expect to be doing all this work for every driver.
> a WARN_ONCE() would enable us to find the drivers that need this new
> async probe "feature".

This whole approach of trying to mark specific drivers as needing
"async probing" is completely broken for the problem at hand.  It
can't address the problem adequately while breaking backward
compatibility.  I don't think this makes much sense.

Nacked-by: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>

Thanks.

-- 
tejun
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