netdev - Re: [patch net-next v2 8/9] switchdev: introduce Netlink API

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Date:	Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:14:26 +0200
From:	Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
To:	John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@...el.com>
Cc:	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [patch net-next v2 8/9] switchdev: introduce Netlink API

Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:12:12AM CEST, john.r.fastabend@...el.com wrote:
>On 09/19/2014 10:57 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
>> On 09/19/14 11:49, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 05:25:48PM CEST, jhs@...atatu.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> Is this just a temporary test tool? Otherwise i dont see reason
>>>> for its existence (or the API that it feeds on).
>>>
>>> Please read the conversation I had with Pravin and Jesse in v1 thread.
>>> Long story short they like to have the api separated from ovs datapath
>>> so ovs daemon can use it to directly communicate with driver. Also John
>>> Fastabend requested a way to work with driver flows without using ovs ->
>>> that was the original reason I created switchdev genl api.
>>>
>>> Regarding the "sw" tool, yes it is for testing purposes now. ovs daemon
>>> will use directly switchdev genl api.
>>>
>>> I hope I cleared this out.
>>>
>> 
>> It is - thanks Jiri.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> jamal
>
>Hi Jiri,
>
>I was considering a slightly different approach where the
>device would report via netlink the fields/actions it
>supported rather than creating pre-defined enums for every
>possible key.
>
>I already need to have an API to report fields/matches
>that are being supported why not have the device report
>the headers as header fields (len, offset) and the
>associated parse graph the hardware uses? Vendors should
>have this already to describe/design their real hardware.

Hmm, let me think about this a bit more. I will try to figure out how to
handle that. Sound logic though. Will try to incorporate the idea in the
patchset.


>
>As always its better to have code and when I get some
>time I'll try to write it up. Maybe its just a separate
>classifier although I don't actually want two hardware
>flow APIs.

Understood.

>
>I see you dropped the RFC tag are you proposing we include
>this now?

v11 is my bet :)

>
>.John
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