netdev - Re: VRFs and the scalability of namespaces

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Date:	Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:43:43 -0600
From:	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
To:	Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com>,
	Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini05@...il.com>
CC:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@...nd.com>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: VRFs and the scalability of namespaces

On 9/29/14, 11:00 AM, Ben Greear wrote:
> On 09/29/2014 09:50 AM, Sowmini Varadhan wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/29/2014 06:06 AM, David Ahern wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We have implemented support for at least most of this (excepting duplicate IPs)
>>> using routing tables, rules, and (optionally, xorp as the router).
>>>
>>
>> My undertanding of multiple routing-tables/rules was that they
>> are closer in semantics to switch/router ACLs than to VRFs, eg.,
>> one big difference is that an interface can belong to exactly one
>> VRF at a time, which is not mandated by multiple routing-tables/rules.
>>
>> Was I mistaken?
>
> You can effectively force an interface to belong to a particular virtual
> router (table).  It is not trivial to do, and possibly I have still not
> covered every possible case.  Some rules grow somewhat exponentially as
> interfaces are added to virtual routers (ie, preference 10 rules).

An interesting way of doing it; thanks for the reference point.

Fundamentally the design should be able to assign interfaces to a single 
VRF, support duplicate IP addresses on different interfaces in different 
VRFs and be able to scale to 10,000+ netdevices -- devices representing 
physical ports as well as logical interfaces built on top of them (e.g., 
sub-interfaces).

David

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