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Date:	Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:36:06 -0500
From:	Don Dutile <ddutile@...hat.com>
To:	Sathya Perla <Sathya.Perla@...lex.Com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
CC:	"linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"ariel.elior@...gic.com" <ariel.elior@...gic.com>,
	"linux.nics@...el.com" <linux.nics@...el.com>,
	"shahed.shaikh@...gic.com" <shahed.shaikh@...gic.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] move pci_assivned_vfs() check (while disabling VFs)
 to pci sub-system

On 11/13/2014 02:04 AM, Sathya Perla wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@...hat.com]
>>
>> On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 14:09 -0500, Don Dutile wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2014 06:53 AM, Sathya Perla wrote:
>>>> A user must not be allowed to disable VFs while they are already assigned
>> to
>>>> a guest. This check is being made in each individual driver that
>> implements
>>>> the sriov_configure PCI method.
>>>> This patch-set fixes this code duplication by moving this check from
>>>> drivers to the sriov_nuvfs_store() routine just before invoking
>>>> sriov_configure() when num_vfs is equal to 0.
>>>>
>>>> Vasundhara Volam (4):
>>>>     pci: move pci_assivned_vfs() check while disabling VFs to pci
>>>>       sub-system
>>>>     bnx2x: remove pci_assigned_vfs() check while disabling VFs
>>>>     i40e: remove pci_assigned_vfs() check while disabling VFs
>>>>     qlcnic: remove pci_assigned_vfs() check while disabling VFs
>>>>
>>>>    drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnx2x/bnx2x_sriov.c  |    2 +-
>>>>    drivers/net/ethernet/intel/i40e/i40e_virtchnl_pf.c |    7 +------
>>>>    .../net/ethernet/qlogic/qlcnic/qlcnic_sriov_pf.c   |   10 ----------
>>>>    drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c                            |    5 +++++
>>>>    4 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>> I have had a side conversation with Alex Williamson, VFIO author.
>>>
>>> VFIO is the upstream method that device-assignment is managed/handled
>> on kvm now.
>>> It does not set the PCI_DEV_FLAGS_ASSIGNED pci dev-flags, and thus,
>>> this check will not work when VFIO is used.
>>>
>>> This patch set will only work for the former, kvm-managed, device-
>> assignment method,
>>> which is currently being deprecated in qemu as well.
>>>
>>> So, yes, it works for kvm managed device-assignment, but not the
>>> newer, VFIO-based device-assignment.
>>>
>>> Note, also, that the pci_assigned_vfs() check in the drivers will
>>> always return 0 when VFIO is used for device assignment, so keeping
>>> these checks in the drivers doesn't do what they imply either.
>>>
>>> So, taking in the patch solves old, kvm-managed, device assignment,
>>> but a new method is needed when VFIO is involved.
>>>
>>> - Don
>>>
>>> ps -- Note: just adding the flag setting in vfio-pci does not necessarily
>>>         solve this problem.  VFIO does not know if a device is assigned to a
>> guest;
>>>         it only knows a caller of the ioctl requesting the device to be assigned
>>>         to vfio, and to be dma-mapped for a region of memory, has been
>> requested.
>>>         So, a new PF<->VF mechanism needs to be put in place to
>>>         determine the equivalent information.
>>
>> pps -- Note: testing pci_assivned_vfs() is racy, nothing prevents the flag
>> 	being added to a device between your check and removing the VF
>> device.
>> 	This is one of the reasons that vfio-pci doesn't use it and that this
>> 	interface should be discouraged in the kernel.
>
> Alex/Don, I agree with the points you've raised.
> But, I'd like to know whether you think this patch-set should be accepted or not.
> Even though this patch-set doesn't fix any of the pending issues raised here,
> it's a small step forward as it reduces the number of invocations of pci_assigned_vfs()
> check which is a good thing.
>
> thanks,
> -Sathya
>

IMO, it's only a fix for XEN.  Upstream has moved on to VFIO-based device assignment,
and these patches do not fix the issue.  They don't make it any worse, either,
but I don't want someone scanning the patch list thinking it's been fixed either.

So, it's ok (but racy, as it is today) for kvm-managed device-assignment & Xen
pci passthrough, but does zip for VFIO-based assignment.

We need a new api - maybe another/new state in sysfs, so userspace can set it
(like qemu &/or libvirt), as well as (xen) kernel ... and meeting non-racy condition(s).

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