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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:32:13 +0000
From: Andri Yngvason <andri.yngvason@...el.com>
To: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@...il.com>,
Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@...ndegger.com>
CC: Olivier Sobrie <olivier@...rie.be>,
Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@...tkopp.net>,
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@...gutronix.de>,
Linux-CAN <linux-can@...r.kernel.org>,
netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/5] can: kvaser_usb: Consolidate and unify state change
handling
Quoting Ahmed S. Darwish (2015-01-23 06:07:34)
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 05:13:45PM +0100, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 10:36:47 -0500, "Ahmed S. Darwish"
> > <darwish.07@...il.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:00:15PM +0000, Andri Yngvason wrote:
> > >> Quoting Ahmed S. Darwish (2015-01-21 14:43:23)
> > >> > Hi!
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > >> > <-- Unplug the cable -->
> > >> >
> > >> > (000.009106) can0 20000080 [8] 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
> > >> > ERRORFRAME
> > >> > bus-error
> > >> > error-counter-tx-rx{{8}{0}}
> > >> > (000.001872) can0 20000080 [8] 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00
> >
> > For a bus-errors I would also expcect some more information in the
> > data[2..3] fields. But these are always zero.
> >
>
> M16C error factors made it possible to report things like
> CAN_ERR_PROT_FORM/STUFF/BIT0/BIT1/TX in data[2], and
> CAN_ERR_PROT_LOC_ACK/CRC_DEL in data[3].
>
> Unfortunately such error factors are only reported in Leaf, but
> not in USBCan-II due to the wire format change in the error event:
>
> struct leaf_msg_error_event {
> u8 tid;
> u8 flags;
> __le16 time[3];
> u8 channel;
> u8 padding;
> u8 tx_errors_count;
> u8 rx_errors_count;
> u8 status;
> u8 error_factor;
> } __packed;
>
> struct usbcan_msg_error_event {
> u8 tid;
> u8 padding;
> u8 tx_errors_count_ch0;
> u8 rx_errors_count_ch0;
> u8 tx_errors_count_ch1;
> u8 rx_errors_count_ch1;
> u8 status_ch0;
> u8 status_ch1;
> __le16 time;
> } __packed;
>
> I speculate that the wire format was changed due to controller
> bugs in the USBCan-II, which was slightly mentioned in their
> data sheets here:
>
> http://www.kvaser.com/canlib-webhelp/page_hardware_specific_can_controllers.html
>
> So it seems there's really no way for filling such bus error
> info given the very limited amount of data exported :-(
>
We experienced similar problems with FlexCAN.
>
> The issue of incomplete data does not even stop here, kindly
> check below notes regarding reverse state transitions:
>
> > >> > ERRORFRAME
> > >> > bus-error
> > >> > error-counter-tx-rx{{16}{0}}
> > >> [...]
[...]
> > >> > ERRORFRAME
> > >> > bus-error
> > >> > error-counter-tx-rx{{128}{0}}
> > >> >
> > >> > (( Then a continous flood, exactly similar to the above packet,
> > >> > appears.
> > >> > Unfortunately this flooding is a firmware problem. ))
> > >> >
> > >> > <-- Replug the cable, after a good amount of time -->
> > >> >
> > >> Where are the reverse state transitions?
> > >> >
> > >
> > > Hmmm...
> > >
> > > [ ... ]
> > >>
> > >> Reverse state transitions are missing from the logs. See comments
> > above.
> > >>
> > >
> > > When the device is on the _receiving_ end, and I unplug the CAN cable
> > after
> > > introducing some noise to the level of reaching WARNING or PASSIVE, I
> > > receive a BUS_ERROR event with the rxerr count reset back to 0 or 1. In
> > > that case, the driver correctly transitions back the state to
> > ERROR_ACTIVE
> > > and candump produces something similar to:
> > >
> > > (000.000362) can0 2000008C [8] 00 40 40 00 00 00 00 01
> > > ERRORFRAME
> > > controller-problem{}
> > > protocol-violation{{back-to-error-active}{}}
> > > bus-error
> > > error-counter-tx-rx{{0}{1}}
> > >
> > > which is, AFAIK, the correct behaviour from the driver side.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, when the device is on the _sending_ end and I re-plug the CAN
> > > cable again. Sometimes I receive events with txerr reset to 0 or 1, and
> > > the driver correctly reverts back to ERROR_ACTIVE in that case. But on
> > > another times like the quoted case above, I don't receive any events
> > > resetting txerr back -- only data packets on the bus.
> >
> > Well, the firmware seems to report *only* bus-errors via
> > CMD_CAN_ERROR_EVENT messages, also carrying the new state, but no
> > CMD_CHIP_STATE_EVENT just for the state changes.
> >
>
> I've dumped _every_ message I receive from the firmware while
> disconnecting the CAN bus, waiting a while, and connecting it again.
> I really received _nothing_ from the firmware when the CAN bus was
> reconnected and the data packets were flowing again. Not even a
> single CHIP_STATE_EVENT, even after waiting for a long time.
>
> So it's basically:
> ...
> ERR EVENT, txerr=128, rxerr=0
> ERR EVENT, txerr=128, rxerr=0
> ERR EVENT, txerr=128, rxerr=0
> ...
>
> then complete silence, except the data frames. I've even tried with
> different versions of the firmware, but the same behaviour persisted.
>
> > > So, What can the driver do given the above?
> >
> > Little if the notification does not come.
> >
>
> We can poll the state by sending CMD_GET_CHIP_STATE to the firmware,
> and it will hopefully reply with a CHIP_STATE_EVENT response
> containing the new txerr and rxerr values that we can use for
> reverse state transitions.
>
> But do we _really_ want to go through the path? I feel that it will
> open some cans of worms w.r.t. concurrent access to both the netdev
> and USB stacks from a single driver.
>
Honestly, I don't know.
>
> A possible solution can be setting up a kernel thread that queries
> for a CHIP_STATE_EVENT every second?
>
Have you considered polling in kvaser_usb_tx_acknowledge? You could do something
like:
if(unlikely(dev->can.state != CAN_STATE_ERROR_ACTIVE))
{
request_state();
}
I don't think that anything beyond that would be worth pursuing.
Best regards,
Andri
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