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Date:	Mon, 09 Mar 2015 09:51:35 -0700
From:	Jeff Kirsher <tarbal@...il.com>
To:	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>,
	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@...ulusnetworks.com>
CC:	Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"stephen@...workplumber.org" <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
	Jiří Pírko <jiri@...nulli.us>
Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2] route: label externally offloaded routes

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On 03/09/2015 09:16 AM, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Andy Gospodarek 
> <gospo@...ulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 10:15:35PM -0800, sfeldma@...il.com
>> wrote:
>>> From: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
>>> 
>>> On ip route print dump, label externally offloaded routes with
>>> "external". Offloaded routes are flagged with RTNH_F_EXTERNAL,
>>> a recent additon to net-next.  For example:
>>> 
>>> $ ip route default via 192.168.0.2 dev eth0 11.0.0.0/30 dev
>>> swp1  proto kernel  scope link  src 11.0.0.2 external 
>>> 11.0.0.4/30 via 11.0.0.1 dev swp1  proto zebra  metric 20
>>> external 11.0.0.8/30 dev swp2  proto kernel  scope link  src
>>> 11.0.0.10 external 11.0.0.12/30 via 11.0.0.9 dev swp2  proto
>>> zebra  metric 20 external 12.0.0.2  proto zebra  metric 30
>>> external nexthop via 11.0.0.1  dev swp1 weight 1 nexthop via
>>> 11.0.0.9  dev swp2 weight 1 12.0.0.3 via 11.0.0.1 dev swp1
>>> proto zebra  metric 20 external 12.0.0.4 via 11.0.0.9 dev swp2
>>> proto zebra  metric 20 external 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto
>>> kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.15
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
>> 
>> You know we cannot have a thread about nomenclature without a
>> comment from me.  ;)
>> 
>> My only concern about 'external' is whether or not people will
>> gloss over it since many of the routes listed will be to networks
>> that actually are external to the system.  That namespace
>> collision could seem awkward if you are not a traditional
>> follower of this list. Listing an FDB entry as 'external' does
>> not have the same issue since all FDB entries are local to the
>> system, so I didn't even think about the potential when that set
>> was posted.
>> 
>> I would like to just call this 'hardware' since that is what we
>> appear to be using for offload and would make it clear to the
>> user that this route was in hardware as well as in the kernel.
>> I'd say the same for FDB entries, too.
>> 
>> Scott, you have lots of experience in both traditional and Linux
>> worlds, do you think my concern about confusion is unnecessary?
> 
> Votes so far: 1 for "external", 1 for "hardware", 1 for "offload"
> or "hw".
> 
> Good point about confusion wrt routes to non-local networks.

My $0.02, "hardware" seems most appropriate to me.

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