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Date:	Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:44:03 -0700
From:	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
To:	"Arad, Ronen" <ronen.arad@...el.com>
Cc:	Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>,
	Jirí Pírko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 11/18] switchdev: remove old netdev_switch_port_bridge_setlink

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Arad, Ronen <ronen.arad@...el.com> wrote:
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Scott Feldman [mailto:sfeldma@...il.com]
>>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:28 PM
>>To: Arad, Ronen
>>Cc: roopa; Netdev; Jirí Pírko; Guenter Roeck; Florian Fainelli
>>Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 11/18] switchdev: remove old
>>netdev_switch_port_bridge_setlink
>>
>>On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Arad, Ronen <ronen.arad@...el.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org [mailto:netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org] On
>>>>Behalf Of Scott Feldman
>>>>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:20 PM
>>>>To: roopa
>>>>Cc: Netdev; Jiří Pírko; Guenter Roeck; Florian Fainelli
>>>>Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 11/18] switchdev: remove old
>>>>netdev_switch_port_bridge_setlink
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:23 AM, roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/30/15, 1:40 AM, sfeldma@...il.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New attr-based bridge_setlink can recurse lower devs and recover on err,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> remove old wrapper.  Also, restore br_setlink back to original and don't
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> into SELF port driver.  rtnetlink.c:bridge_setlink already does a call
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> port driver for SELF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> removing this now requires every vlan add to be a two step process, why ?
>>>>
>>>>No, that's not true.  You want to use
>>>>ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid/ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid in your port driver, and then
>>>>using either vlan driver standalone or the bridge driver vlan support
>>>>will work.
>>>>
>>>>Try it.  Implement ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid in your port driver and verify
>>>>you get called to add VLAN to port with either:
>>>>
>>>>    bridge vlan add dev swp1 vid 10
>>>>
>>>>    -or-
>>>>
>>>>    vconfig add swp1 10
>>>>
>>>>Same for deleting a VLAN, either of these two commands call into the
>>>>port driver ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid:
>>>>
>>>>    bridge vlan del dev swp1 vid 10
>>>>
>>>>    -or-
>>>>
>>>>    vconfig rem swp1 10
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> bridge vlan add dev swp1 vid 10
>>>>> bridge vlan add dev swp1 vid 10 self
>>>>
>>>>Not necessary.  The first command is sufficient if using
>>>>ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid.
>>>
>>> This is not sufficient for VLAN filtering. Ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid does not
>>> provide the vinfo flags PVID and UNTAGGED. Therefore it is not
>>> an adequate replacement for propagating setlink/dellink messages to the
>>> swithport driver or an alternative via swdev_attr.
>>
>>Glad you bring that point up.  I think these can get cast as port
>>attrs and set using swdev_attr.  This is something swdev attr should
>>open up is allowing more settings to be pushed down to port driver.
>>I'll look into this one and include it with v2.
>
> It could be beneficial to build extensibility into swdev_attr.
> An experimenter attribute designed to carry arbitrary data could allow
> for passing new attributes and implementation specific attributes
> without affecting any existing switchdev driver:
>
> enum swdev_attr_id {
>         SWDEV_ATTR_UNDEFINED,
>         SWDEV_ATTR_EXPERIMENTER,
>         SWDEV_ATTR_PORT_PARENT_ID,
>         SWDEV_ATTR_PORT_STP_STATE,
>  };
>
>
> struct swdev_experimenter_attr {
>         u32 exp_id;     /* - MSB 0: low-order bytes are IEEE OUI */
>                         /* - MSB != 0: reserved for netdev */
>         u32 exp_attr;
>         u16 exp_attr_size;
>         const void *exp_attr_data;
> }
>
> struct swdev_attr {
>         enum swdev_attr_id attr;
>         u32 flags;
>
>         union {
>                 struct netdev_phys_item_id ppid;        /* PORT_PARENT_ID */
>                 u8 stp_state;                           /* PORT_STP_STATE */
>                 unsigned long brport_flags;     /* PORT_BRIDGE_FLAGS */
>                 /* netdev defined attributes abobe this line */
>                 struct swdev_experimenter_attr exp_attr;
>         };

I'm scared of void *'s.  How would this be used?  Maybe an example to
illustrate the use-case would help.
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