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Date:	Sun, 31 May 2015 10:06:27 -0700
From:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
CC:	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
	Jerome Oufella <jerome.oufella@...oirfairelinux.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@...il.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] DSA and Marvell 88E6352 802.1q support

On 05/31/2015 09:48 AM, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
>> Scott,
>>
>>
>> On 05/28/2015 10:02 PM, Scott Feldman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Vivien Didelot
>>> <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This RFC is based on v4.1-rc3.
>>>>
>>>> It is meant to get a glance to the commits responsible to implement the
>>>> necessary NDOs between DSA and the Marvell 88E6352 switch driver.
>>>>
>>>> With this support, I am able to create VLANs with (un)tagged ports,
>>>> setting
>>>> their default VID, from a bridge.
>>>>
>>>> To create a bridge containing all switch ports, with a VLAN ID 400, swp2
>>>> and
>>>> swp3 untagged (pvid), and swp4 tagged, the userspace commands look like
>>>> this:
>>>>
>>>>       ip link add name br0 type bridge
>>>>       [...]
>>>>       ip link set dev swp2 up master br0
>>>>       [...]
>>>>       bridge vlan add vid 400 pvid untagged dev swp2
>>>>       bridge vlan add vid 400 pvid untagged dev swp3
>>>>       bridge vlan add vid 400 dev swp4
>>>>       [...]
>>>>       ip link add link br0 name br0.400 type vlan id 400
>>>>       [...]
>>>>       bridge vlan add dev br0 vid 400 self
>>>>
>>>> The code is currently being rebased to the latest net-next/master.
>>>>
>>>> Seems like the way to go now is through switchdev attr getter/setter...
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, for dsa_slave you should be able to port this to switchdev and
>>> set your ndo_bridge_setlink/dellink handlers to
>>> switchdev_port_bridge_setlink/dellink.  (And also implement the
>>> switchdev ops for vlans).
>>>
>>> If you use switchdev_port_bridge_setlink/dellink, you shouldn't need
>>> to implement ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid/ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid at all.  The
>>
>>
>> Those functions are called from net/8021q/vlan_core.c if a vlan is
>> configured on or removed from an interface. Does that result in a call to
>> setlink/dellink as well, even if a switch port is not a member of a bridge group ?
>
> No, not if you're using 8021q module for vlan setup on non-bridged
> ports.  If using 8021q module, you'll need to retain the ndo ops.
>
> The alternative to the ndo ops for non-bridged ports is to use the
> bridge_setlink/dellink interface on self:
>
>    bridge vlan add vid VID dev DEV self
>
> The would call into DEV port's bridge_setlink to add VID to port.  The
> driver would setup HW to ingress VID tagged frames and egress VID
> tagged frames on DEV port.
>

Hi Scott,

If I understand you correctly, that means we would expect users to
use bridge commands even on non-bridged dsa ports. I don't think we can
make this kind of assumption. Users will expect configure VLANs on
non-bridge ports as they would normally configure VLANs, using the 8021q
module.

So I guess we'll have to support the ndo ops for dsa.

Thanks,
Guenter

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