netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v7 0/4] net: Introduce protodown flag.

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Date:	Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:36:56 -0700
From:	Anuradha Karuppiah <anuradhak@...ulusnetworks.com>
To:	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>
Cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>,
	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@...ulusnetworks.com>,
	Wilson Kok <wkok@...ulusnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 0/4] net: Introduce protodown flag.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Anuradha Karuppiah
> <anuradhak@...ulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:43 PM,  <anuradhak@...ulusnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Anuradha Karuppiah <anuradhak@...ulusnetworks.com>
>>>>
>>>> User space daemons can detect errors in the network that need to be
>>>> notified to the switch device drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Drivers can react to this error state by doing a phy-down on the
>>>> switch-port which would result in a carrier-off locally and on the directly
>>>> connected switch. Doing that would prevent loops and black-holes in the
>>>> network.
>>>
>>> Hi Anuradha,
>>>
>>> Since this is a switch-thingy, can you move this to switchdev port
>>> attribute rather than adding another ndo op?  I know you started this
>>> patch set before switchdev port attrs, but I think it's worthwhile
>>> moving it to switchdev since clearly the use-case is switch device
>>> drivers.   Let me know if you need help converting over to switchdev
>>> port attr.
>>>
>>> Also, is the sysfs interface necessary?  The netlink/iproute2
>>> interface seems sufficient.
>>>
>>> -scott
>>
>> Yes, for the current use case (MLAG) it would be better to isolate the
>> changes to switchdev. Also if we go with the switchdev option are you
>> thinking about dropping the netdev->proto_down bool attribute
>> altogether and only keeping that info in the switch drivers that
>> support the op?
>
> Yes.
>
>> You are right, the sysfs is not necessary. I can make it RO and just
>> use it for displaying or drop it all together. What would you
>> recommend?
>
> Drop it if it's not needed/used.
>
> On the iproute2 part, do we expect users to manually toggle this flag
> from the cmdline?  Seems kind of weird to walk up to a box and say "ip
> link set dev DEV protodown on".  Isn't this more intended for external
> agents (i.e. MLAG) to toggle?  I guess if there is a netlink attr for
> the flag, there should be a user-interface.  But it seems like it'll
> be a source of confusion for 99.999% of the users out there that
> wonder what this knob does.

The MLAG app currently does use the iproute2 interface for toggling
protodown. So I may not be able to drop the iproute2 config option
easily.
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