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Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:08:34 +0000
From:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
To:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@...e-electrons.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Stas Sergeev <stsp@...rs.sourceforge.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mvneta: add FIXED_PHY dependency

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 05:57:43PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> I'm not sure what you are asking. A lot of DT bindings have both
> optional and mandatory properties. For mvneta, the "phy" and "phy-mode"
> properties are listed as mandatory, so the driver can safely assume
> that they are always present. If there are reasons to leave them out,
> and for the driver to handle that case correctly, the binding
> should be updated to mark them as optional.

They are "optional" because when you're using a DSA switch, you don't
specify a PHY (because, there isn't one).  For example, this is what
I'm using with an Armada 388 board with a Marvell DSA switch.  The
DSA does not appear as a PHY, and no node in the DSA stanza can be
referenced for a phy entry in the ethernet device's stanza.

                        eth1: ethernet@...00 {
                                compatible = "marvell,armada-370-neta";
                                reg = <0x30000 0x4000>;
                                interrupts-extended = <&mpic 10>;
                                clocks = <&gateclk 3>;
                                managed = "in-band-status";
                                phy-mode = "sgmii";
                                status = "okay";
                        };

        dsa@0 {
                compatible = "marvell,dsa";
                dsa,ethernet = <&eth1>;
                dsa,mii-bus = <&mdio>;
                pinctrl-0 = <&clearfog_dsa0_clk_pins &clearfog_dsa0_pins>;
                pinctrl-names = "default";
                #address-cells = <2>;
                #size-cells = <0>;

                switch@0 {
		...
		};
	};

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