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Date:   Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:19:56 -0700
From:   Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com>
To:     John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
Cc:     Brenden Blanco <bblanco@...mgrid.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
        intel-wired-lan <intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org>,
        William Tu <u9012063@...il.com>,
        Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v2 2/2] e1000: bundle xdp xmit routines

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:12 PM, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com> wrote:
> On 16-09-09 06:04 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:01 PM, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com> wrote:
>>> On 16-09-09 04:44 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:29 PM, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>> e1000 supports a single TX queue so it is being shared with the stack
>>>>> when XDP runs XDP_TX action. This requires taking the xmit lock to
>>>>> ensure we don't corrupt the tx ring. To avoid taking and dropping the
>>>>> lock per packet this patch adds a bundling implementation to submit
>>>>> a bundle of packets to the xmit routine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested this patch running e1000 in a VM using KVM over a tap
>>>>> device using pktgen to generate traffic along with 'ping -f -l 100'.
>>>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> How does this interact with BQL on e1000?
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me check if I have the API correct. When we enqueue a packet to
>>> be sent we must issue a netdev_sent_queue() call and then on actual
>>> transmission issue a netdev_completed_queue().
>>>
>>> The patch attached here missed a few things though.
>>>
>>> But it looks like I just need to call netdev_sent_queue() from the
>>> e1000_xmit_raw_frame() routine and then let the tx completion logic
>>> kick in which will call netdev_completed_queue() correctly.
>>>
>>> I'll need to add a check for the queue state as well. So if I do these
>>> three things,
>>>
>>>         check __QUEUE_STATE_XOFF before sending
>>>         netdev_sent_queue() -> on XDP_TX
>>>         netdev_completed_queue()
>>>
>>> It should work agree? Now should we do this even when XDP owns the
>>> queue? Or is this purely an issue with sharing the queue between
>>> XDP and stack.
>>>
>> But what is the action for XDP_TX if the queue is stopped? There is no
>> qdisc to back pressure in the XDP path. Would we just start dropping
>> packets then?
>
> Yep that is what the patch does if there is any sort of error packets
> get dropped on the floor. I don't think there is anything else that
> can be done.
>
That probably means that the stack will always win out under load.
Trying to used the same queue where half of the packets are well
managed by a qdisc and half aren't is going to leave someone unhappy.
Maybe in the this case where we have to share the qdisc we can
allocate the skb on on returning XDP_TX and send through the normal
qdisc for the device.

Tom

>>
>> Tom
>>
>>> .John
>>>
>

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