netdev - Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket

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Date:   Tue, 22 Aug 2017 11:17:23 +0000
From:   Vallish Vaidyeshwara <vallish@...zon.com>
To:     Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>
CC:     <davem@...emloft.net>, <shuah@...nel.org>,
        <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        <eduval@...zon.com>, <anchalag@...zon.com>, <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/2] enable hires timer to timeout datagram socket

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 08:23:11AM +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 06:22:10PM +0000, Vallish Vaidyeshwara wrote:
> > AWS Lambda is affected by this change in behavior in
> > system call. Following links has more information:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWS_Lambda
> 
> Quote:
> 
>     Unlike Amazon EC2, which is priced by the hour, AWS Lambda is
>     metered in increments of 100 milliseconds.
>
> So I guess you want the accurate timeout in order to support billing?
> In any case, even with the old wheel you didn't have guarantees WRT
> timeout latency, and so the proper way for the application to handle
> this is to use a timerfd together with HIGH_RES_TIMERS, and PREEMPT_RT
> in order to have sub-millisecond latency.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard

Hello Richard,

4.4 kernel implementation of datagram socket wait code is calling
schedule_timeout() which in-turn calls __mod_timer(). __mod_timer()
does not add any slack. mod_timer() is the function that adds slack.
This gives good consistent results for event handling response time
on datagram socket timeouts.

strace from 4.4 test run of waiting for 180 seconds:
10:25:48.239685 setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVTIMEO, "\264\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 0
10:25:48.239755 recvmsg(3, 0x7ffd0a3beec0, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
10:28:48.236989 fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 0), ...}) = 0

strace from 4.9 test run of waiting for 180 seconds times out close to 195 seconds:
setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVTIMEO, "\264\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 0 <0.000028>
recvmsg(3, 0x7ffd6a2c4380, 0)           = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <194.852000>
fstat(1, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 0), ...}) = 0 <0.000018>

This change of behavior in system call is breaking the application logic and
response time.

Thanks.
-Vallish