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Date:   Tue, 7 Nov 2017 17:25:23 -0800
From:   Y Song <ys114321@...il.com>
To:     atish.patra@...cle.com
Cc:     Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com>,
        "Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sandipan Das <sandipan@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Brendan Gregg <brendan.d.gregg@...il.com>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] bpf: Add helpers to read useful task_struct members

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Atish Patra <atish.patra@...cle.com> wrote:
> On 11/07/2017 04:42 PM, Y Song wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/8/17 6:47 AM, Y Song wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/17 6:14 AM, Y Song wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:37 AM, Naveen N. Rao
>>>>>> <naveen.n.rao@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/17 12:55 AM, Naveen N. Rao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought such struct shouldn't change layout.
>>>>>>>>>> If it is we need to fix include/linux/compiler-clang.h to do that
>>>>>>>>>> anon struct as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We considered that, but it looked to be very dependent on the
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> gcc used to build the kernel. But, this may be a simpler approach
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the shorter term.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> why it would depend on version of gcc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From what I can see, randomized_struct_fields_start is defined only
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> gcc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> = 4.6. For older versions, it does not get mapped to an anonymous
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> structure. We may not care for older gcc versions, but..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other issue was that __randomize_layout maps to __designated_init
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> randstruct plugin is not enabled, which is in turn an attribute on
>>>>>>> gcc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> v5.1, but not otherwise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We just need this, no?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/compiler-clang.h
>>>>>>>> b/include/linux/compiler-clang.h
>>>>>>>> index de179993e039..4e29ab6187cb 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/compiler-clang.h
>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/compiler-clang.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -15,3 +15,6 @@
>>>>>>>>    * with any version that can compile the kernel
>>>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>>>   #define __UNIQUE_ID(prefix) __PASTE(__PASTE(__UNIQUE_ID_, prefix),
>>>>>>>> __COUNTER__)
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +#define randomized_struct_fields_start struct {
>>>>>>>> +#define randomized_struct_fields_end   };
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> since offsets are mandated by C standard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, this is what we're testing with and is probably sufficient for
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just tested this with bcc. bcc actually complains. the rewriter
>>>>>> is not able to rewrite prev->pid where prev is "struct task_struct
>>>>>> *prev".
>>>>>> I will change bcc rewriter to see whether the field value is correct
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure my understanding is correct or not, but I am afraid that
>>>>>> the above approach for clang compiler change may not work.
>>>>>> If clang calculates the field offset based on header file, the offset
>>>>>> may not be the same as kernel one....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> why is that?
>>>>> When randomization is off both gcc and clang must generate the same
>>>>> offsets, since it's C standard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The patch changed compiler-clang.h, so gcc still do randomization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> gcc_plugins are off by default and randomization will not be
>>> turned on for any sane distro or datacenter that cares about
>>> performance and stability.
>>> So imo above compiler-clang.h patch together with bcc fix would
>>> be enough.
>>
>>
>> Agree that short time the suggested fix should be enough.
>> Long time, disto could become "insane" someday :-)
>>
>
> Yup it works with clang compiler & bcc hack. Thanks :).
> I verified it with task_switch.py & runqlat.py.
>
> Are you going to push the bcc hacks to github repo ?

I will need to have proper implementation than a hack. Yes, once done, will
push into bcc repo. Should be done soon.

>
> Regards,
> Atish