Date:   Mon, 26 Feb 2018 16:51:07 -0800
From:   Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
To:     Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@...el.com>,
        intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org
Cc:     jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        jesus.sanchez-palencia@...el.com
Subject: Re: [next-queue PATCH 7/8] igb: Add support for adding offloaded
 clsflower filters

On 02/26/2018 04:40 PM, Vinicius Costa Gomes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com> writes:
> 
>> On February 23, 2018 5:20:35 PM PST, Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@...el.com> wrote:
>>> This allows filters added by tc-flower and specifying MAC addresses,
>>> Ethernet types, and the VLAN priority field, to be offloaded to the
>>> controller.
>>>
>>> This reuses most of the infrastructure used by ethtool, ethtool can be
>>> used to read these filters, but modification and deletion can only be
>>> done via tc-flower.
>>
>> You would want to check what other drivers supporting both
>> ethtool::rxnfc and cls_flower do, but this can be seriously confusing
>> to an user. As an user I would be more comfortable with seeing only
>> rules added through ethtool via ethtool and those added by cls_flower
>> via cls_flower. They will both access a shared set of resources but it
>> seems easier for me to dump rules with both tools to figure out why
>> -ENOSPC was returned rather than seeing something I did not add.
>> Others might see it entirely differently.
> 
> I took a closer look at mlx5 and i40e, and they seem to use different
> hardware capabilities (even incompatible in the case of i40e, which
> returns an error when tring to add cls_flower filter when an ethtool
> based filter exists) for ethtool and cls_flower. So I don't think the
> model applies exactly here.
> 
> As they keep the filters separated for the user perspective, I could do
> the same, in the name of convention, it's just that the separation is
> more "artificial". But I have no strong opinions either way.

True, I would still conform to what these two drivers do since they have
a large user base (so does igb, but not yet for cls_flower yet since you
are obviously working on it).

> 
>>
>> If you added the ability for cls_flower to indicate a queue number and
>> either a fixed rule index or auto-placement (RX_CLS_LOC_ANY), could
>> that eliminate entirely the need for adding MAC address steering in
>> earlier patches?
> 
> I am not sure that I understand. 'cls_flower' already has support for
> indicating a queue number (expressed via the 'hw_tc' parameter to tc)
> (commit 384c181e3780 ("net: sched: Identify hardware traffic classes
> using classid").

I had missed that cls_flower gained the capability to specify a queue
number, that's good. What it still does not support AFAICT that ethtool
does though is either automatically allocating a rule location (Rule ID
shown by ethtool) or allowing placement at a specific location. This can
be important when the rule location can be carried by the hardware on
e.g: a per-packet basis, the hardware that I work with (bcm_sf2_cfp.c)
makes use of that for instance, maybe this is such an isolated case that
I should take care of it at some point if I was remotely serious into
providing tc/cls_flower support for that driver...

> 
> And adding more control for the allocation of indexes for the rules seem
> not to help much in reducing the size/complexity of this series. I.e.
> this series has 4 parts: bug fixes, adding support for source addresses
> for MAC filters, adding ethtool support MAC address filters (as it was
> only missing some glue code), and adding offloading for some types of
> cls_flower filters. More control for the allocation of rule indexes would
> only affect the cls_flower part.
> 
> But perhaps I could be missing something here.

You are absolutely right, it was not so much about trying to reduce the
complexity rather than avoiding having two user interface facilities:
ethtool and tc/cls_flower to do essentailly the same thing, yet, having
some small differences in the offered capabilities, in the case of
tc/cls_flower, lack of specification of rule location.
-- 
Florian

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