netdev - Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next 02/10] net: phy: phylink: allow 10GKR interface to use in-band negotiation

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Date:   Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:13:43 +0100
From:   Antoine Tenart <antoine.tenart@...tlin.com>
To:     Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc:     Stefan Chulski <stefanc@...vell.com>,
        Antoine Tenart <antoine.tenart@...tlin.com>,
        Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
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Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next 02/10] net: phy: phylink: allow 10GKR
 interface to use in-band negotiation

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 02:08:23PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > If they don't have PHYs, how are the connected to the outside world?
> > 
> > By external SFP or direct attached cable.
> 
> Maybe i'm missing something, but don't you just need to add an SFP
> device in the device tree. The SFP code and PHYLINK will work
> together, query what the SFP module is, use the GPIOs to determine
> link up/down and module present, and tell the MAC how to configure the
> MAC-SFP link?

This would definitively work for SFP connectors with a PHY, but would
that work when using direct attached cable? As in the second case
phylink wouldn't be able to ask the SFP PHY for the link state.

Antoine

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Antoine Ténart, Bootlin (formerly Free Electrons)
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