netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework

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Date:   Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:44:47 -0700
From:   Siwei Liu <loseweigh@...il.com>
To:     "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
Cc:     Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        virtio-dev@...ts.oasis-open.org,
        "Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@...el.com>,
        Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>,
        Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event
 handling code to use the bypass framework

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@...hat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 02:26:08PM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:59:50 -0700
>> Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Use the registration/notification framework supported by the generic
>> > bypass infrastructure.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>
>> > ---
>>
>> Thanks for doing this.  Your current version has couple show stopper
>> issues.
>>
>> First, the slave device is instantly taking over the slave.
>> This doesn't allow udev/systemd to do its device rename of the slave
>> device. Netvsc uses a delayed work to workaround this.
>
> Interesting. Does this mean udev must act within a specific time window
> then?

Sighs, lots of hacks. Why propgating this from driver to a common
module. We really need a clean solution.

-Siwei


>
>> Secondly, the select queue needs to call queue selection in VF.
>> The bonding/teaming logic doesn't work well for UDP flows.
>> Commit b3bf5666a510 ("hv_netvsc: defer queue selection to VF")
>> fixed this performance problem.
>>
>> Lastly, more indirection is bad in current climate.
>>
>> I am not completely adverse to this but it needs to be fast, simple
>> and completely transparent.