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Date:   Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:55:36 +0000
From:   Lawrence Brakmo <brakmo@...com>
To:     Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@...gle.com>
CC:     Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@...gle.com>,
        Matt Mathis <mattmathis@...gle.com>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kernel Team <Kernel-team@...com>,
        "Blake Matheny" <bmatheny@...com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...com>,
        Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        Wei Wang <weiwan@...gle.com>,
        Steve Ibanez <sibanez@...nford.edu>,
        Yousuk Seung <ysseung@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] tcp: force cwnd at least 2 in
 tcp_cwnd_reduction

On 6/28/18, 1:48 PM, "netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org on behalf of Neal Cardwell" <netdev-owner@...r.kernel.org on behalf of ncardwell@...gle.com> wrote:

    On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:20 PM Lawrence Brakmo <brakmo@...com> wrote:
    >
    > I just looked at 4.18 traces and the behavior is as follows:
    >
    >    Host A sends the last packets of the request
    >
    >    Host B receives them, and the last packet is marked with congestion (CE)
    >
    >    Host B sends ACKs for packets not marked with congestion
    >
    >    Host B sends data packet with reply and ACK for packet marked with congestion (TCP flag ECE)
    >
    >    Host A receives ACKs with no ECE flag
    >
    >    Host A receives data packet with ACK for the last packet of request and has TCP ECE bit set
    >
    >    Host A sends 1st data packet of the next request with TCP flag CWR
    >
    >    Host B receives the packet (as seen in tcpdump at B), no CE flag
    >
    >    Host B sends a dup ACK that also has the TCP ECE flag
    >
    >    Host A RTO timer fires!
    >
    >    Host A to send the next packet
    >
    >    Host A receives an ACK for everything it has sent (i.e. Host B did receive 1st packet of request)
    >
    >    Host A send more packets…
    
    Thanks, Larry! This is very interesting. I don't know the cause, but
    this reminds me of an issue  Steve Ibanez raised on the netdev list
    last December, where he was seeing cases with DCTCP where a CWR packet
    would be received and buffered by Host B but not ACKed by Host B. This
    was the thread "Re: Linux ECN Handling", starting around December 5. I
    have cc-ed Steve.
    
    I wonder if this may somehow be related to the DCTCP logic to rewind
    tp->rcv_nxt and call tcp_send_ack(), and then restore tp->rcv_nxt, if
    DCTCP notices that the incoming CE bits have been changed while the
    receiver thinks it is holding on to a delayed ACK (in
    dctcp_ce_state_0_to_1() and dctcp_ce_state_1_to_0()). I wonder if the
    "synthetic" call to tcp_send_ack() somehow has side effects in the
    delayed ACK state machine that can cause the connection to forget that
    it still needs to fire a delayed ACK, even though it just sent an ACK
    just now.
    
    neal
    
You were right Neal, one of the bugs is related to this and is caused by a lack of state update to DCTCP. DCTCP is first informed that the ACK was delayed but it is not updated when the ACK is sent with a data packet.

I am working on a patch to fix this which hopefully should be out today. Thanks everyone for the great feedback! 

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