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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:17:25 +0100
From: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@...il.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org,  "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,  Eric
 Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,  Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
  donald.hunter@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v1] tools: ynl: Add an strace rendering mode to
 ynl-gen

Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org> writes:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:13:36 +0100 Donald Hunter wrote:
>> Add --mode strace to ynl-gen-c.py to generate source files for strace
>> that teach it to understand how to decode genetlink messages defined
>> in the spec. I successfully used this to add openvswitch message
>> decoding to strace as I described in:
>> 
>> https://donaldh.wtf/2023/06/teaching-strace-new-tricks/
>> 
>> It successfully generated ovs_datapath and ovs_vport but ovs_flow
>> needed manual fixes to fix code ordering and forward declarations.
>> 
>> Limitations:
>> 
>> - Uses a crude mechanism to try and emit functions in the right order
>>   which fails for ovs_flow
>
> What's the dependency? I pushed some stuff recently to try to order
> types more intelligently but for normal C netlink it still won't deal
> with cycles :(

For strace I need to emit attr decoder functions before referencing them
in dispatch tables. The crude mechanism I used was to emit decoders for
nested attributes first, which worked okay for e.g. ovs_vport. But
ovs_flow has I think at least 1 cycle.

> Actually I think that you're using raw family info rather than the
> codegen-focused structs, maybe that's why?

Yes, that's a fair point. I'm just walking through the declared
attribute-sets in the order defined in the schema. I can take a look at
what the codegen-focused structs provide.

>> - Outputs all strace sources to stdout or a single file
>> - Does not use the right semantic strace decoders for e.g. IP or MAC
>>   addresses because there is no schema information to say what the
>>   domain type is.
>
> The interpretation depends on another attribute or we expose things 
> as binary with no machine-readable indication if its IP addr or MAC etc?

Yeah, it's the lack of machine-readable indication. I'd suggest adding
something like 'format: ipv4-address' to the schema.

>> This seems like a useful tool to have as part of the ynl suite since
>> it lowers the cost of getting good strace support for new netlink
>> families. But I realise that the generated format is dependent on an
>> out of tree project. If there is interest in having this in-tree then
>> I can clean it up and address some of the limitations before
>> submission.
>
> I think it's fine, we'll have to cross this bridge sooner or later.
> I suspect we'll need to split ynl-gen-c once again (like the
> tools/net/ynl/lib/nlspec.py, maybe we need another layer for code 
> generators? nlcodegen or some such?) before we add codegen for more
> languages. I'm not sure you actually need that yet, maybe the strace
> generator needs just nlspec.py and it can be a separate script?

The strace generator uses CodeWriter and makes partial use of the Type*
classes as well. If we split those out of ynl-gen-c then it could be a
separate script. A first step could be to move all but main() into a
lib?

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