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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 15:13:25 +0000
From: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@...cle.com>
To: Moritz Wanzenböck <moritz.wanzenboeck@...bit.com>
CC: kernel-tls-handshake <kernel-tls-handshake@...ts.linux.dev>,
        "open
 list:NETWORKING [GENERAL]" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni
	<pabeni@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: low pending handshake limit

Hi-

> On Sep 4, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Moritz Wanzenböck <moritz.wanzenboeck@...bit.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm currently working on enabling TLS support for DRBD, so I'm very keen to use the handshake infrastructure.

I'm happy to see the handshake infrastructure get more usage.


> During testing I noticed that the allowed number of pending handshakes is quite low. This seems to stem from the following calculation:
> 
> /*
> * Arbitrary limit to prevent handshakes that do not make
> * progress from clogging up the system. The cap scales up
> * with the amount of physical memory on the system.
> */
> si_meminfo(&si);
> tmp = si.totalram / (25 * si.mem_unit);
> hn->hn_pending_max = clamp(tmp, 3UL, 50UL);
> 
> Which, for the typical VMs I use for testing (1Gi RAM), ends up being just 3 handshakes. The limits in general seem too low also in the best case. If a node just booted, and would start connecting to all configured DRBD devices, we could easily hit even the upper limit of 50.
> 
> Also the calculation used doesn't seem to make too much sense to me. It allows more handshakes when using a smaller page size?
> 
> Would it be possible to increase the number of pending handshakes?

IIRC I added the dynamic computation in response to a review
comment from Paolo (cc'd). I think the limit values are arbitrary,
we just want a sensible cap on the number of pending handshakes,
and on smaller systems, that limit should be a smaller value.

It's true that a handshake can fail if that limit is hit, but
the consumer ought to be able to retry after a brief delay in
that case.

I am open to discussing changes if retrying proves to be a
challenge.


--
Chuck Lever


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