phc-discussions - Re: [PHC] Quick gripe... in case there's ever another contest

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2014 18:52:28 +0000
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@....freebsd.dk>
To: discussions@...sword-hashing.net, Thomas Pornin <pornin@...et.org>
Subject: Re: [PHC] Quick gripe... in case there's ever another contest

In message <20140405181410.GA7809@...et.org>, Thomas Pornin writes:

>(In fact, my opinion is that a _reference_ implementation, meant to test
>other implementations for correctness, should be done in a language
>which does NOT have undefined or architecture-dependent behaviour. C
>should be banned for that; [...]

I look at it the other way:  It should be written only in plain
ISO C, so that it does not depend on deep, complex and often
quite buggy stacks of "middleware".

Password scrambling is a systems function, systems are written in C.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@...eBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.