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Message-ID: <3F3C1061.7070107@immunix.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:42:41 -0700
From: Crispin Cowan <crispin@...unix.com>
To: Sam Baskinger <sam@...fedge.com>
Subject: Re: Buffer overflow prevention


Sam Baskinger wrote:

>It sounds like array bounds checking would offer an almost equivalent effect.  
>This would not stop mis-casting a struct and referencing out of it or similar 
>casting+address calcuation errors.  To prevent that you would need either a 
>language that prevented the production of that sort of code or to solve the 
>halting problem.
>
Array bounds checking offers greater protection than any of these 
protections (StackGuard, ProPolice, PointGuard, W^X, PAX/ASLR, etc.) The 
problem is that the very fastest array bounds protection for C (Bounded 
Pointers) imposes a 5X slowdown on performance, where as these other 
techniques impose overheat somewhere between noise and 20%. See the 
comparison chart in the back of the PointGuard paper for a good 
comparison of these techniques:

    "PointGuard: Protecting Pointers From Buffer Overflow
    Vulnerabilities". Crispin Cowan, Steve Beattie, John Johansen and
    Perry Wagle. To appear at the 12^th USENIX Security Symposium
    <http://www.usenix.org/events/sec03/>, Washington DC, August 4-8,
    2003. Paper
    <http://immunix.com/%7Ecrispin/pointguard_usenix_security2003.pdf>
    and Talk
    <http://immunix.com/%7Ecrispin/pointguard_usenix_security2003.ppt>.

Crispin

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Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.           http://immunix.com/~crispin/
Chief Scientist, Immunix       http://immunix.com
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