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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0309172008020.8633-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:09:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne@...ternet.com>
To: "D. Ian Miller" <miller@...lgary.ca>
Cc: Jose Nazario <jose@...key.org>, Thor Larholm <thor@...x.com>,
   <list@...ield.org>, <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>,
   NTBugtraq <NTBUGTRAQ@...TSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM>,
   <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Verisign abusing .COM/.NET monopoly, BIND
 releases new



either your queries were messed, or this has not fully repropogated;

# date
Wed Sep 17 21:06:12 EDT 2003


# dig doesnptexisteither.com|more

; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> doesnptexisteither.com
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      doesnptexisteither.com, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
doesnptexisteither.com.  14m52s IN A  64.94.110.11

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  f.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  g.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  h.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  i.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  j.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  k.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  l.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  m.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  a.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    1d23h59m52s IN NS  b.gtld-servers.net.
...

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne


On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, D. Ian Miller wrote:

> FYI ... looks like Verisign has pulled the wildcard A record as we have
> not patched but invalid domain searches no longer go to verisign ...
> sitefinder-idn.verisign.com is no longer responding to queries ... maybe
> someone got the message ... wonder how they will explain this one ...
>
> Jose Nazario wrote:
>
> >a number of options exist to help you remedy this issue:
> >
> >	- bind 9.2.3rc2 supports "delegation-only", stopping some
> >	  wildcard implementations from making any difference
> >
> >if you simply want to stop traffic getting there (they are running a
> >website and a partially functional MTA on that IP):
> >
> >	- you can BGP null route this
> >	  http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg13715.html
> >
> >	- cisco's NBAR functionality may be used to detect and block those
> >	  reply packets from coming in by looking for the response from
> >	  the nameservers.
> >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121limit/121e/121e2/nbar2e.htm
> >
> >note that this wont stop the query from reaching verisign, it will just
> >stop you from going to that IP. however, for some enforcing network
> >privacy concerns, that may be worthwhile.
> >
> >hope this helps,
> >
> >___________________________
> >jose nazario, ph.d.			jose@...key.org
> >					http://monkey.org/~jose/
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> =======================================
> D. Ian Miller                      }8-)
> Systems Analyst
> Information Technologies
> University of Calgary
> W: 403.220.8643
> M: 403.605.9856
>
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